Well yeah, every standard will crumble away. And I get that they might want more functionality, but they could have done that with an open standard like usb connectors (mini or micro) but chose to use proprietary to force people into buying extras. I mean they even used micro usb for power, but it can’t charge the…

Cool, thx for info. I have no need for multiple accounts or stores, the only games I would play on PS TV (btw I have the first ‘ps tv’ (3d monitor) too lol) are the ones I’ve gotten free every month from ps+ over the years

Oh, wow I didn’t realize that! I have a psp, but never a vita and I was under the impression it used memory stick too. Well then, I agree that’s bullshit too.

Ok, so I guess I wasn’t specific enough. how’s this:

I started gaming with the NES and a Radioshack TRS-80 (not sure why you assume ps3 was my first when I wrote twice about my ps2). And I’m not sure how it’s fair to lump in things like controllers or memory cards when at the time there was no standard for anything like that. So yes, I guess you’re correct in the sense…

Then maybe I’m misinterpreting “Sony: We learned our lesson from last Gen. Don’t do anything proprietary. Check warehouse and see what we have and put together ps4.” as implying ps3 had proprietary stuff. I could be wrong, but either way, I feel it is relevant to the discussion at large.

ok, memory stick I’ll give you, but please remember that it was the original and only “digital film” that was then copied by cheaper alternatives. They kept using it for legacy purposes, although sony does support alternatives across their products, the first PS3s even came with built-in 4-card readers, but YES it’s…

I doubt it, 360 wireless controller worked with pc, but required a proprietary dongle, sold separately of course! They’ve never used bluetooth because they would have to pay licensing fees, and would lose all that free money from proprietary adapters.

Ps4 headset is a cheap piece of crap. The only reason they included it was because they were heavily criticised for not including a headset with ps3 at all when most 360s had one packed in. Try the gold headset, and there will be a world of difference (it’s USB open standard too, so it works on ps3, ps4, any computer…

Also, ps3 didn’t use headphone jacks but accepted standard USB connected mics for wired, bluetooth for wireless, both open standards. no proprietary bullshit.

Old or not, 3.5mm jacks are still a standard, and can include extra functionality (I.e. iPhone earbuds have inbuilt volume buttons and mic).

Nah, they just didn’t want to pay the licensing fee, which turned out to be a bad idea as everyone freaked out (rightfully so)

I still have an original launch 60gb ps3, with a printed manual that shows you how to change the HDD with any non proprietary laptop size HDD. It was covered in warranty, and that has NEVER changed. The “arduous” reformatting was literally turning on the ps3, it detecting a new hdd, and it automatically reformatting.…

It’s because their first two consoles were full of proprietary bullshit, but they managed to get away with. Now that they’re failing (relativity speaking) MS has been forced into making changes.

Yeah, this douche is all kinds of wrong

Every 360, with the exception of the bare bones arcade model, came with a headset. They were cheap ass (lol I’m looking at mine now) but was one of the console’s often cited reasons for it’s popular online.

360 allowed expandable storage with replaceable hard drives, which is more than can be said of any other console of its generation. You could even use completely unlicensed third party hard drives, since the spec of the 360 drive connector was public domain, so many knock off 360 hard drives came to market, whereas…

What has Sony ever done that is proprietary? Their consoles have used USB and Bluetooth for connecting. Xbox has always had bullshit proprietary devices and extras you have to buy. PS2 had DVD, so did XBOX1 but you had to unlock it by buying a DVD remote. 360 had a horrible connection scheme, with giant propriatary…

I’m a guy, and even I knew that :P

I had a summer job doing deliveries for a flower shop, that also had a bridal salon. I used to have to pick them up from the dry-cleaners. I had no idea what they were for, so one of the girls had to explain to me, and correct me on the pronunciation of what I was calling “gremlins.” We had a good laugh.