Abrams / O’Rourke 2020!

Whether I have a ;aw degree pr not isn’t really germane. The vast majority of people with law degree are not prosecutor or criminal defense attorneys.

So the problem I keep having is, I don’t think this is fraud. Like if this is fraud people who cheat on their tests in high school and people who pay other people to write their admissions essays all that shit is fraud too. Which like causes me to arrive back at the whole everyone is guilty place.

None of these people should be in jail. Not Kelley Williams-Bolar, not Rosa Maria Ortega, not Crystal Mason. Nor this dude Singer neither.

How Stringer Got His Grove Back?

I was totally with you.

There it is! Others have already clearly articulated to you the legal basis for the charges

Yeah everybody who has announced so far is pretty garbage though.

I read what you wrote. You did not provide any reasoning which justifies a distinction between paying a bribe to the development office and paying it to the soccer coach.

Ok, go on then explain yourself. What’s the difference? Gievn that if these people had paid the bribes to the development office then the bribes would have been tax deductible?

I don’t know what to tell you. I just drscribed 90% of my life. I work at a university, I went to prep school with people just like these who cheated all the time, I may at some point provide private college counseling services... though my focus was on going to college for free not paying extra money.  There is no…

Because the parents should have paid their bribes to the Development Office instead of to the soccer coach?

I mean, there was some of that. I think it basically evolved anecdotally from stories about world war II. Notably the people who were telling me this shit had never actually been to France.

I read the updated article in Wall Street Journal this morning where the expressly stated what specificly he did in order to guarantee admissions to these schools. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-man-behind-the-alleged-25-million-college-admissions-cheating-scandal-11552422678?mod=hp_lead_pos5

yeah I heard this no racism in Brazil thing a lot growing up, I was just trying to quickly google examples on my phone before I ran on the field for a soccer game.

yeah I used to hear it a lot growing, right along with “there’s no racism in France”. 

oh, no that is the genus name. It has nothing to do with the common usage of the words panther or black panther. That name is applied to all Big Cats.

It’s not that fraud is not a crime. It’s just that this is bush league low level, everyday “rich” (mini-baller) type of bullshit. Basically these people paid their bribes to the wrong person and now its an “ongoing criminal conspiracy”

Oh you think Honest Service aspect was a reference to the schools? I thought that was regarding The College Board and other students taking the exam.

I have a life. A job, a girlfriend, I’m in graduate school and I’m at my rec soccer game right now.