That’s correct, however, those credits, at least the federal one, are not point of sale rebates. You don’t see that money until tax return time, so your payments will reflect that higher financed amount, which could have an effect on purchasing decisions. Others have pointed out that in order to get that full rebate…

“Well maybe when fossil fuels are banned...” Nothing said about restricting that to cars. No goal posts moved.

One day a week, every week. Should I rent a car on those days?  There are currently days I excede that range, so it's really not even sufficient up to that point.

Great for Boston. What works in a high density urban environment is not applicable in much of the nation.

That’s one of the issues with EVs, the other is initial investment. Ioniq EV is $33k, Ioniq PHEV is $26k, Elantra is $20k. A 65% EV premium is a pretty tough sell.

Sure, let’s ban fossil fuels altogether when there is currently no replacement that covers all possible use cases.

You’re not wrong about even the people selling them alongside their gas models not having a clue about them. Salesguys I bought my ioniq from was clueless. I had previously researched the purchase, but did still have some questions, and he had no fucking idea. He stood in the sun, sweating his ass off while I flipped…

That’s good. You’re one of the 55%. When I analyzed the amount of driving I did before I bought my ioniq PHEV, I found that roughly once a week I drive ~125 miles in a day with no chargers in sight to schlep kids somewhere. The ioniq EV might work for me now, but in 6 years, when it’s 10 degrees below zero and the…

I live in one of those second areas. There’s no public transportation to speak of, and shit is still pretty spread out. If I leave work to take a kid to a Dr’s appointment, then have to attend an athletic event for the other, I’m going to be getting awfully close to the max range of the more economical EVs.

I disagree, people make emotional decisions all the time that don't necessarily make sense.  A good pitch can make some of the trade offs seem acceptable.

That's extremely disappointing, and absolutely worth excusing all the yelling.

I’m not normally a fan of the C4, but that looks pretty rad!

Ioniq is listed at 170 miles of range, Nissan is dying, the Bolt is not particularly attractive, and the Niro is $40k.

Shit, whaddya know? I have never paid too much attention to the Prius, I just assumed they made a pure EV model.

Does it come in that wonderful Polestar blue?

“but that car doesn’t come with all of Tesla’s Autopilot features”

There are still a good number of sacrifices/compromises to be made with an electric vehicle. An EV may suit my needs 75% of the time, but what about the other 25%? The days when my kid has a Dr’s appointment across town, and the other one has a concert/athletic event on the other side of town? The economical EVs are…

Right now, I would bet the majority of Americans couldn't identify an EV other than Tesla, the Bolt, and the Prius, so I'm actually a little surprised it's as high as 50%.

No, I think he means it’s big out there. A 125 mile range, when the vehicle is new, and the ambient temperature is favorable, isn’t going to cut it.

Dude, I literally had a telecon disseminating the results of our employee engagement survey a couple days ago.  This is spot on.