That's a fair point and I share the hatch love. :)

Yes. Several.

I'll admit that VAG isn't a paragon of reliability. That said I'd also never recommend one as basic simple transportation the way the Cobalt was marketed.

These cars are unmitigated garbage. They're also poorly engineered.

People said the Cobalt was better than the Cavalier. They were right.

I'm a VW/Audi guy. I'm also looking semi-seriously now at a C63 AMG. I'm an enthusiast and I accept a certain amount of reliability risk in performance cars. The cobalt isn't a performance car. People bought these as basic safe transportation and they failed miserably.

But aren't there a whole spate of better cars out there at the same price that don't have a history of bad design?

Had for pretty cheap is the only part of this that makes sense. Get a Focus, get a Fit, get a Miata, get a Civic, get a used Acura TSX. Get anything but this.

You mean something like how I can't believe this collection of flaming idiots bought a car from a company whose oversight promised to kill them or their families and that before it was even known, the car was already one of the most heinous pieces of outdated plastic shit on the market?

At first I was surprised. Then I realized something very important: these are cobalt owners.

it was just J Walter Weatherman.

You made a lot of good points here.

This is true of just about any car...ever. Yet we still have opinions about concept cars all the time here. This one is just plain ugly.

If they want a partner they should make a car that actually looks good/real. Think about it this way — no one accepted electric cars that look like electric cars (read: dorky). Buyers also don't accept completely anonymous electric cars — they want to make a statement. Tesla hit a slam dunk by making their car sexy…

If this were 1999, sure. But today all of Apple's stuff tends to be sleek, aluminum, and often is all blacked out. When's the last time you saw some real color outside the iphone/ipod?

Completely true.

Seriously. You can't as a car guy say you like this.

I hate this. I'm not sorry. I just hate it. It's not even elegant and minimalist. It's just bad. It will be dated in five years.

Jaguar also did for a while IIRC.

I had the pleasure of meeting Liam at a cars and coffee in DC. He was incredibly down-to-earth and just such a great car guy. He even volunteered to help with an event I was helping to put on. It's awesome to see how well he's doing.