Not at all the same thing, and if you can’t see why then I cannot help you.

I don’t get why being an asshole to someone who is literally just trying to do their job as efficiently as possible is helpful to anyone at all.

I hope neither of these assholes gets a penny but I’m sure they will. There is no excuse for this. This is childish, immature, moronic. The second one certainly isn’t in drivable condition so according to even the original statement from VW with no clarification it is not eligible for the buyback. Nor should it…

Totally different cars can’t compare. Making purely this argument, old Ferraris should be worthless.

....you do realize the rear wing is providing hundreds of pounds of needed downforce, right? Also, not sure that looks good at all but opinions vary.

...no

But that’s not the question. Also, the 911 just got a facelift, and is fairly regularly clean-sheeted. Not sure what you mean...it’s always had the engine in the back, yes...are you saying that’s the only reason it’s “old” ?

I mean, that’s your opinion. I prefer the sound of a V12 greatly to that of a V8.

Do you guys know what words mean? Dear god. Your whole point about it “not being out yet” is crucial too - almost all cars can be pushed a bit past what the manufacturer says they will do. Trimming a few hundredths off of FF’s official number is hardly impossible, nor is this “destroying” it. Please learn to write…

You’re very misinformed. Why don’t you go drive one.

What does that even mean...you don’t understand why attractive, luxurious German cars that happen to be the best driver’s cars in their class are desirable? Or you’re just being a contrarian on the internet to get attention? I have a feeling it’s the second one.

...hmmm?

I think you’re too hung up on weight, just like nearly everyone else on this website. They handle amazingly well, and have been universally praised in this new generation for being excellent driver’s cars. Why don’t you drive one instead of standing on your ivory weight nazi tower?

The Mustang has never been that, nor should it ever be, and I doubt it ever will be. I think it’s just not the car for you, perhaps?

Uh, yes you can. There is a difference between a 180 degree vee and a flat engine.

Are you serious? I think you may be on the wrong site. This place is (supposed) to be for enthusiasts.

Again, read and comprehend the article. Is she flooring it at that moment to over-ride? No? Ok.

If you read and understood the article, you’d have literally no basis to be concerned.

The brakes were never applied, this is a non-factor.

Nobody can be 100% sure of any product they make in totality, that’s not possible in any known universe. If you read the article, you will clearly see how a sensor failure could not have caused this and is laughable to even suggest.