I never claimed lending was unethical by your standard. It’s the borrower who “refuses to demonstrate that value monetarily”.

“Refuses to demonstrate that value monetarily” - the lender paid, the borrower didn’t.

Borrowers don’t negotiate for publisher’s consent. According to your statement, that is what makes pirates bad. Are you now saying that it is morally acceptable to not negotiate with the publishers as long as the law says you don’t have to? Because A) that would be the distinction I’ve been asking for since my first…

Seth Rollins, in spite of being the cover athlete this year, looks like a fan-created wrestler and not someone whose faced was scanned:

You need to do better than that and establish why (a) the publisher’s consent matters in borrowing a single thing

Because it does. That’s why, even after a half dozen attempts, you haven’t been able to say why it doesn’t without bringing in new arguments about copying.

Nice burn. Almost as slick as “I know you are, but what am I”.

(And don’t launch into another tangent about how piracy isn’t borrowing. I know it isn’t. I never said it was.)

A) No it isn’t.
B) What does that have to do with anything?

Do you believe that they consent to have copies of their game freely and legally borrowed? If so, why have they pushed so hard against it? Borrowing is legal, with or without their consent. They have no say in the matter. For the fourth time, how does your comment not apply equally to borrowing. (And don’t launch into…

Playing the pirated game (1) recognizes there is some value to the game, otherwise it wouldn’t be played, but (2) refuses to demonstrate that value monetarily, or to negotiate the game’s value with the developer’s or publisher’s consent.

The publisher needs to consent to letting me borrow a movie from a friend? Since when?

What does any of that have to do with this?

The pirated game was purchased as well. It didn’t come from nowhere. As long as you delete it when you’re done, you have limited access. And neither of those arguments have anything to do with your original statement.

Playing the pirated game (1) recognizes there is some value to the game, otherwise it wouldn’t be played, but (2) refuses to demonstrate that value monetarily, or to negotiate the game’s value with the developer’s or publisher’s consent.

If you have no reason not to believe Jen Kirkman, you have no reason not to believe her when she says she thinks there’s nothing to the rumors.

I like it. Call it the Burdizzos and castrate the winners on stage.

The table gets very close to your lap when you’re sitting on a stack of phone books.

She was partying with skinheads just like she’s... partying with skinheads.

You forgot to shine it up real nice.