It really seems like the city council and shipbuilders are the main culprits here. 

skeffles dismisses any replies that disagree with them in their threads, its best to do the same when they go down this path.

That’s a big word to use - and awfully insulting. But it’s clear there no room for nuance or legitimate ethical debate in your mind. It’s all black and white. And whatever benefit received by thousands of ship builders and workers in associated industries as a consequence of this - particularly during the economic…

The fact that a person can actually perceive complex ethical decisions, and acknowledges that good governance occasionally means having to make hard decisions because they’ll benefit the greatest number of people doesn’t make a person a ‘sociopath’.  

Good argument!

Frankly, not really, no. Their history isn’t being ‘dismantled’, it’s being temporarily deconstructed and then reconstructed to allow a ship to pass. Is their council backtracking on an earlier promise? Yeah, sounds like it. Could they be kicked out of office as a result? Yep for sure. Is it possible that council…

Shadow vessel? Call this what it is - the man is creating his own fleet.

…a privilege with responsibilities.

This is the society you get when you treat firearm ownership as an inalienable right, rather than a privilege with responsibilities.

Ugly, trying to use its name/muscle heritage as a selling point despite that its a soft FWD cruiser. At least the later ones had the 5.3 V8.

It’s got a small handful of Mercedes parts on it, that totally means it’s a Mercedes platform! /s

Faulty argument. The problem (for some) is the application of the GTO badge, not the car itself. Fine. You can have that. But the GTO was and remains a GREAT car, especially with the manual and the 6.0 LS2, and is one of the few from that era I’d still happily plunk down some coin for. It’s fun to drive, handles well,…

The GTO is the worst? How quickly you forget the Volare Road Runner and Aspen R/T.

I’d say it’s 100% a muscle car. Big high output V8? That’s a STAPLE of a muscle car.

I always loved those Camaro, it was Matt car in 7th heaven when I was a kid, looked cool. 

Wait, BCE’s defense was, “He didn’t ask us if they were Pokemon cards. He asked us if they were in good condition”? That’s some Twilight Zone genie shit.

That address is for the apartment complex with 33 buildings on 21 acres. Sure, if that family owed money then someone might be camping out looking for them, but if that someone is already shooting up their apartment then that’s not the biggest problem.

so? he’s preserved these 15 as an art piece. you don’t have to like him but given there 10s of millions of these in abundance in the world... given that, a transformative art piece like this is a perfectly appropriate way of preserving the history.

I don’t think #4 is really relevant when even those families apparently agree that 110 years isn’t warranted.