elefantine
Elephantine
elefantine

Your comparison is so fucking dumb. You’re comparing deeply religious countries where there is no separation between church and state with secular countries where women have conquered a lot of rights. Is it perfect? No. But there’s definitely a more patriarchal culture between the West and the muslim world. Claiming

That’s because America carefully chooses its Muslim immigrants. You only take the ones who are lawyers or doctors, we in Europe get the poor, uneducated people with no skills and who are deeply conservative and narrow-minded. Therefore they don’t want to integrate, merely just want to reproduce in Europe the exact way

The Night Porter traumatized me. Talk about fucked up.

The Hunt is a Danish film, not Dutch. Denmark and the Netherlands are close geographically but still. Not the same country.

I thought Black Book was pretty good. Didn’t find it offensive at all.

He thinks it’s fine to joke about rape, he fetishizes Asian women, among other stuff. His rap lyrics tell you a lot of who he really is.

Perhaps because he’s a misogynistic douche? Why does Jezebel promote him so much?

huh really? You’re making this about monogamy and Americans being prudish? I’m European and this guy disgusts me. He’s sent mutiple dick picks to random women who didn’t even ask for it. He’s an asshole. Of course his political career has been ruined, how could it not be?

I’m tired of arguing. I won’t convince you, you won’t convince me. I think it’s sad how so many liberals bend over backwards to excuse Islam. France will proceed as they please, no matter what you think. History will show that we were right.

Where did I say that? Where? You think you’re teaching me something but you’re not. The majority of Muslims in France are Arabs and several of them have written about burkinis.

Great. Cultural relativism. Well done.

People are trying to derail the conversation by being exceptionally obtuse and naive so I thought you were one of them. Well yeah. Western values are not an option. When you move to the West you have to accept them. If you don’t, then perhaps it’s best to stay in your Muslim country. That’s the deal: you move here,

Why should a woman be “modest” anywhere? On a beach, in the street, anywhere. Burkini is not a simple wetsuit, it is designed for Muslim women who don’t want to wear a bikini. And yes women were wearing that kind of wetsuit in Europe in... 1910. One hundred years ago. Time for Muslims to evolve.

Oh please. We’re talking about burkinis and the fact that they have been forbidden, not about one woman who was wearing a headscarf on a beach. Jezebel is taking one ridiculous example to try to show that France is wrong about the whole thing. Plenty of Arabic writers have been supporting that measure but of course

No they’re not the same thing. You keep trying to derail the conversation. The problem is quite simple: in France we refuse to tolerate religion in the public sphere, religion is very frowned upon. And you have Muslims constantly refusing our western values and trying to demand that men and women be separated, that

Islamophobia: avoiding any legitimate criticism of Islam in the name of tolerance. You are such an idiot

what do you want me to say to that? That’s fucking sad. You’re sad.

Well we don’t have Mormons in France but perhaps you didn’t know that? And Jews are not the ones wearing it in France. Jews are very integrated into French society so once again, your examples are not applicable to the French situation.

How long are you going to spout off nonsense? Pale people don’t wear burkinis no. Stop trying to derail the conversation. The problem is Islam and its hatred of women’s bodies. Fullstop.

Honestly I’d rather be depressed than believe in nonsense. At least that’s real. Religion can indeed provide hope but at what cost? The cost of your rational thinking.