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Wise’s breakdown really made me question where he’s coming from with all his anti-racism work. Although, in one of his books, he did mention that his mother had a similar moment when she, a racially progressive person like him, went full racist in a moment of “weakness” so I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised.

One of my first thoughts after I saw the (admittedly hilarious) #AskRachel trending on Twitter was that she was going to kill herself. I think that the media has, no surprise, been very irresponsible in their coverage of the case. I hope she doesn’t go that route.

I am a black woman too and I still find this story absurdly hilarious, but I think a lot of white people, including those in the media, are searching for a ways to use her to deal with their white guilt at the expense of black people. I hope it doesn’t go that way, but even if it does, I think young black people are

I think that the “racism” and “discrimination” distinction is significant, particularly when discussing how people of color experience racism differently. For that reason, I wouldn’t go so far as to call the conflict at hand “Oppression Olympics”.

I don’t know her. I just evaluated what she said. While I wouldn’t go as far as her in criticizing the OP, it is true that what the OP described was not discrimination.

I was prepared to discuss this until I saw that you had already decided that my argument was either purely semantics or disingenuous. I’m only willing to explain my ideas to people who give me the benefit of the doubt. I’m sorry that you misinterpreted what I said though.

It’s still not discrimination though which is how the OP described it. Painful, but not discrimination.

I think the problem is that you described your experience as “racial discrimination” when what you described was not discrimination. In fact, it sounds like you experienced the exact opposite of discrimination because the people in question included you in what they considered to be an “all white” conversation because

Yeah. I feel the same way. Her humor on Inside Amy Schumer seemed to subvert racism, but then I noticed that some of her earlier stand up was just racist. I had mixed feelings, but decided to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she was becoming more socially aware. Then she made a racist joke at the MTV

What’s the “he was young” card?

I agree that he should have known better. In fact, I believe that he did know better, but I also know that a 14 year old is very different, in many ways, from a 40 year old and I think that that should be taken into account when evaluating his behavior back then even though it shouldn’t be used to minimize the effects

Thank you for sharing that information and for letting me know that you understand where I’m coming from. I really appreciate it.

If racism wasn’t such a powerful system, racists would be the easiest people to laugh at. They are just so stupid.

Yeah, the 3 year statute of limitations is nonsensical and seems geared to protect abusers although I think I read that the statute was lengthened recently. I don’t know if the person who said that was correct, but I hope so - 3 years is ridiculous.

I hope that glass of bourbon in treating you well - not too well - but well nonetheless.

I agree that 14 is old enough to know that it’s wrong, but 14 is also young enough to not be as aware of the consequences of your actions as an adult would be.

Oh. I completely agree that his behavior *now* is a problem (understatement, I know), particularly given that he doesn’t seem to be too concerned with the people he abused. I wasn’t aware that he attacks single mothers, but I am quite aware of his actions against gay and trans people. The fact that he attacks both

I understand the hate for Josh. He’s was already a piece of work without this new revelation. It’s not at all surprising that someone who endorses prejudice under the guise of advancing “family values” has this in his past just as it isn’t surprising that someone like Bill O’Reilly has domestic violence in his past

I agree. His age still matters.

No, it didn’t offend me. I just usually associate it with anger or frustration which usually isn’t conducive to anything productive.