Those are not unreasonable numbers for those types of tools, nor really big capital spends for even a 250 million dollar company let alone something the size of tesla. Manufacturers spend this much on tooling /automation every day, maybe not all in one tool but that number is pretty run of the mill . . .

9mph top speed smells about right given 1/6 gravity. also interesting to think about suspension design, completely different, you’d need virtually no rebound relative to earth so as not to launch right off the surface and eating it shortly after.

Ooof those wood door cards look cheap. Rolls can do 3d veneer, you can see it in the rear center console, which looks nice. Had they committed to veneer the armrests underneath the leather covers it would have looked so much more cohesive.

don’t wholly disagree but who is it for when there isn’t a sustainable mass of boomer dentists who can ride? i suppose hd may not realize that this ‘when’ is within a product cycle so i gave them the benefit of the doubt by identifying younger, those less than 45.

still won’t capture younger buyers. no matter how great it is, it is still a dead brand in the eyes of non-boomer riders. sure there are a handful or non-boomer hd fans but from an opportunity perspective there are not.

I have been saying this all along, this is how the electric revolution will happen, it won’t be because it was more affordable or any better.

Jason, throwing yet more vibes you have no idea what you are talking about . . .

Modern full suspension bikes with entry level parts, yes. The high end is a lot closer to psychotic trophy truck. 

and interior design that wasn’t reminiscent of the backseat of a west german taxi. 

i feel a need to make some sort of comment about steep rock west now . . . 

The jeep is a good answer, the 5.7 v8 is good too. I don’t know if the air options do load leveling like the ram trucks do but it is a nice to have for towing.

The most disappointing thing about all of this is Suburu.

This needs to be the number one comment. Clips like this are what result in exhaust tube roll cages.

Lexus RC-F, yes the one with the V8 can be had well under this budget.

Not absolutely true, you can dial it down to the 30 amp. Literally, dial, it is a rotary switch behind the cover.

Coupe/Hatchback style = rear parcel shelf that lift? More road noise than the sedan?

Yeah . . . all that BS you wolfed down about the batteries having independent cooling and having modules that can be replaced is disproved in the images they provided.

I absolutely was . . . Not at 153 though. Call me really disappointed, or naive. I really expected them to target the top end of the Tesla range. 

First: there is a potential that your ability to afford ADAS equipped vehicles will result in your insurance rates increasing at a slower rate than those that do not. Over time there is a very real potential that your insurance will actually be cheaper than those who drive a vehicle without these features despite the…

The wing also has reverse and more dealer/maintenance options than this will.