I also feel I should specify that I agree that it's a fake thing to the extent that people who actively identify as "incels" do. I don't think that way. I never felt like men owed me sex and relationships. I just had an incredibly hard time getting either and was often a bit sad about it. I find the "incel" community…

Men like Edgar are fucking delusional. Men are more accepting of women's looks—yeah right! The evidence to the contrary is all around us. Ugly-as-sin men get better looking women all the time because they can make up for it with something else. Men get a wiiiiide berth as far as their appearance goes, as far as their…

This sort of reaction happens because women are not seen as people, but as a resource. It's seen as undemocratic to impose requirements for access to a public resource. Men feel like they're being denied something they have a right to.

You think men are too good to have sex for money and security? Lol. Being a trophy is not about desire. You seem unable to imagine a situation where a man has to sacrifice genuine desire for financial security, as most women have had to do for the entirely of history. But in a society with better economic parity,…

Ah, but you assume their decisions are, and will be, driven entirely by desire.

All that said, men didn't have to deal with this until recently. Throughout human history, you basically just bought yourself a wife, and it was legal to rape her whenever you wanted. So women weren't the gatekeepers of sex until just the last couple of generations.

Nope. You know what women are tired of? Men telling us How Things Are. So, fuck off.

No, it's socialization. The ideal of the hot, attractive young woman has been held above men's heads and glamorized excessively as something all men should want, bonus points for banging as many as possible and never letting one pin you down. Hugh Hefner is a great example. Several hot young girlfriends that are…

That's because people don't really acknowledge that they exist. There's this perception that girls can get whatever guys they want... But when such a scenario is described, it's usually some hot cheerleader type. It's like the dudes talking about these things conveniently forget that ugly and plain women exist...

Isn't this really just a clear-cut case of younger (i.e. "more attractive") women being valued over older (therefore "less attractive") women because of societal beauty standards and the stigma of female aging? It's a product of valuing superficial qualities over the person bearing them. I'm just reminded of the line…

Girl, same here. I could have walked into a room full of horny men who hadn't had sex in a decade, ripped off all my clothes and yelled "I"LL FUCK EVERYONE HERE!" and I STILL wouldn't have gotten laid.

Because there is a lot more to picking a romantic partner than "I think that person is hot". Maybe that's where it starts, but if you're looking for someone stable, with a job, who has thoughts on the latest New Yorker or whatever, Hottie McFratBoy who only wants to drink isn't relationship material.

This hasn't been an issue for me for some time, thankfully. But for the longest time I couldn't GIVE it away.

Wat. Women can definitely approach people. I do it all the time.

They feel they need to have that worldview or else it might mean that they would have to do something besides complain. Because you know it's so much easier to change the way an entire society functions rather than press your clothes and actually talk to real women once in a while.

Let me just state that I don't for a second buy into guys just not being able to help themselves when it comes to young women because "fertility". Bullshit - it's a total social construct. If it wasn't then women would feel the same "drive" to be with 18-22 year-old males. That's *their* physical prime, from a…

They're supposed to endorse and enable the sexism, not oppose it. They're women who preen when someone says, "you're not like other girls."

But Gutfeld saw the light after his wife gave him "the look" when he got home and he apologized with a half-assed moronic apology.

"If you're a woman and nobody approaches you, you're SOL."

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