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Partly, it just works. But secondarily, it’s inconspicuous. There are plenty of other cold shippers that would absolutely draw stares, and stares draw questions, and questions result in delays. And delays kill patients.

Doctor here- sleeping is not sitting stationary in a plane seat where you can barely move even if you wanted to. As others have said, you move during your sleep (even if you don’t think you do, you do) and movement of the leg muscles helps blood flow back from your feet in the veins of your legs.

I was always amazed that people used to carry hearts and shit around in basic Igloo lunch coolers.

Other than all the sleep moment stuff people are talking about, it is about your sitting position and bent knees as you blood flow through the knew is lessened when it is bent, leading to pooling of the blood in your lower legs and clots possible forming. When you stand up, the blood and clots are released to other…

You are exactly right! I was transporting bone marrow, which is actually stored at ambient temp, but other organs are actually kept cold. But it’s in an actual, off-the-shelf cooler.

I'm more curious about how you transport an organ on a plane. I'm assuming you carry the cooler on board. 

This sounds only slightly less stupid than the idiots thinking they can hike the Grand Canyon rim to river and back with nothing but a 1 liter water bottle.  

Wish I could. After 6 hours, I couldn’t move my legs to get up if I wanted to. Just talked to the doctor. I need L4-L5-S1 fusion now and likely L1-L2 and /or L2-L3 in a decade or so.

Hey, those alpha bros can repeat the whole “look how tough I am” schtick with the kidney stones they’ll earn themselves.

They also call it “Barebacking”.

Right? This is the first time I’m hearing about this version. So I was confused when I initially read this headline thinking doing this action on a plane can kill you because I guess you can catch an STD or something? But why is the specific to planes? Is this some weird fad/trend going on with boring plane travel…

I had to climb over someone on a flight from LAX to Auckland. It was insane that he didn’t wake up - I tried talking to him, tapping him, straight-up shaking him - nope, he was facedown on his tray table, basically comatose, for more than half of the 13-hour flight. Meanwhile I took an OTC sleeping pill with two…

Oh, you move in your sleep, lots. Also, the thromboses occur because blood flow is restricted by bent joints. When you sleep you, you not only move around, you also tend to be more stretched out; blood flow isn’t as restricted.

The Guardian did an article on this and they said it was specifically an “alpha-male” thing to prove how macho they are.  So you can add some toxic masculinity to their wall-staring.

Depending on all sorts of factors, a DVT can absolutely, positively kill you. At least, that’s what the vascular specialist explained to me as he prepared to deal with the DVT my ex had gotten in her legs after not moving around at all on a flight.

Remember when planking was the trend? That was fun. Can we go back to that?

Reading through this, my first thought was that they basically just described what it was like to fly pre-smart phones, but without a book and needing to pee more. 

This is mind bogglingly stupid. Just read a book, drink water and walk to other end of the plane once or twice.  The idiocy people do because they saw it on TikTok. 

I unintentionally raw dogged a 15 hour flight. Got stuck in a window seat in coach and the people in the middle and aisle fell asleep during take off. 15 hours stuck in that window seat. When I went to get out of the seat, my legs didn’t work for a bit.