Life is about successfully adapting to the changes we constantly face. I used to think stubborn people like the ones posting here were brave, and almost heroic. Now I just think they do not know how to move forward.

Two kids maybe not necessary. But your kids get older, they have friends, and pretty soon two kids at times is like about 4 or 5. If you don’t know this you must not have any, in which case you should not be offering an opinion about it.

My wife loved our minivan. Maybe the problem is the wife, not the vehicle.

Jesus, women are stubborn.

The Honda, Toyota, and Kia minivans are very nice.

Family of five plus a medium size dog equaled a Honda Odyssey for almost ten years. Never minded it one bit. Well maybe once in a while, but it really wasn’t that bad. Some fond memories of family vacations in it.

One can only hope!

I get it. Then its the WRX/STI or nothing right now. FWIW, the new 2017 Impreza is being hauled out at the New York Auto Show, and these teaser images show some promise:

“We’ll be there too! If David Tracy’s $600 Craigslist Cherokee is up to the task.”

You can still get a stick in the Impreza and Forester. The turbo is available in the Forester XT, although not with a manual. And obviously a manual is the only choice in the STI.

Easily would choose the new one over any older model for the independent rear suspension alone.

I understand, and as I said they missed a bit on the styling, and I agree, they should have provided a hatch model. But I don’t think we should write them off as a car company because of it. You are not going to buy one, and that’s fine, because they can’t keep a new one one the lot for more than a couple days.

I missed this in C&D the article, but David correctly reported that they are also mating the gas engine to another electric motor, ostensibly for torque fill and vectoring as you suggest. Sounds great, but I worry about the weight of all this. Look at what happened to the NSX, the damn thing weighs nearly 4,000 lbs.…

I actually enjoy everything from minivans to mustangs occasionally lose control of their vehicle trying to hang with me in traffic. Most of them know better.

If they are serious about this, I see two models coming off this platform. The future RX7/Supra fighter you refer to, and an all new from the ground up STI that may or may not share anything with a new WRX, which may or may not share anything with the Impreza.

Yes. Show me an American car company in recent years that consistently brings as much innovation, performance, reliability, safety and affordability throughout its entire lineup and I will buy one.

There is no doubt that the WRX is not a “pretty” car. Still, I find it interesting from certain angles, it does turn heads, and I get quite a few compliments. At a price point of about a tenth of that i8 that you keep referring to, with its econobox architecture, there are bound to be compromises.

If they had moved all their enthusiast cars up market out of the realm of affordability like almost everyone else then maybe I could agree with you.

What should matter is that we were lucky to get not one, but two affordable enthusiast cars from a small manufacturer at all. The fact that they continue to look at developing even more exciting concepts when they could just sit back and sell all the Outbacks they want is a god damn miracle.

I agree but it's ok to let somebody dream.