I remember reading reviews for it when it debuted - and I do remember one of them comparing the quality to the previous gen Accord of late 90's early 00's- not quite with the current Accord of the day - but close. This was where Hyundai started coming into their own.

When Peter Schreyer got there - he just needed to do ANYTHING to get the then current Optima facelifted out of obscurity and we got the first tiger nose on a Kia. Of course he turned it into the beauty it is now for its next generation.

Came here to say this exactly. This was the first Hyundai I looked at that didn’t scream “stay away” and they had finally figured out most of the important stuff. Not every single minute detail mind you (they still haven’t quite nailed handling yet - though I hear good things about the 2nd gen Veloster) - but this is…

I hope this lady learned a valuable lesson that she should never give a dealer a trade-in. Just sell it yourself - more work involved yes -but you’re actually gonna get the money you should in the process.

Very nice - AND no squeaks or rattles? So they make a better Tesla than Tesla??? Haha - I’m just joking. Kinda.

Anything you want, just don’t try to sell it, and make sure it’s electronic nannies aren’t calling BMW for backup lol.

The answer to a question nobody asked. This is where the CUV craze officially jumps the shark.

Agreed. Otherwise we’d also have to give a shout out to the Dodge Caliber - which ain’t happening.

In this day and age of information and technology - I’m pretty much convinced everything I own right down to my toaster can be tracked down. A BMW I8? Craigslist? This guy was a special kind of stupid.

Whomever buys them would only do it for their battery tech and supercharger infrastructure. The car production would likely cease and would become instant collectors items.

This is where Musk BS-ing his way thru quarterly shareholder reports - and that Model 3 “Production Hell” catching up to Tesla riiiiight..... abouuut.... here.

Hovercraft DLC - or we riot.

Same. I ALWAYS get the FORZA games 6 months to year AFTER they launch - mainly due to price and negligible differences between the updates. I’m still on Forza 6 (even though 7 came out 8 months ago) and I’m perfectly content with it for now.

Not a fan of the traffic either - but if we can get to do this - I’ll allow it.

Well that explains quite a bit.

Have you ever thought that maybe... just maybe... some drivers don’t WANT/NEED all the space of a CUV or wagon? That they just prefer a more fuel efficient sedan? Not only more fuel efficient - but also sportier performance most CUVs could never match? Or a better financing deal because they’re not a jacked up body…

If he promises to bring back his talk show “What Up With That”, he can stay as long as he wants. One of the funniest SNL skits ever made.

Same here. BUT - had this been my wife - I’d probably be visiting her in the hospital after she’d have veered off into 3 lanes of oncoming traffic and slammed into a gaurd rail.

Considering the absolute chaos high tariffs would do to the auto industry - I don’t think Trumps plan will go through - and will be struck down like just about everything else he’s tried to implement.

And Tesla is ahead of all of us (hi Model 3).