I said it was overpriced.

While it is overpriced, it’s no where near a $3,500 car.  You clearly don’t know the Allroad market.

Your entire argument isn’t logical, that’s the problem.

2009

It might be fantastic, it might not be, and I am unwilling to find out by rounding off a fitting that requires disassembling half the car to replace. You do you.

I’m also a C10 owner (‘65 Suburban).

To say the differences between ‘67-’72 and ‘73+ C10 is just headlight changes, is a bit of a joke.

While I agree, the minor tweaks that the Challenger has received somehow make the pre-facelift ones look drastically older when you sit them next to each other; especially the taillights.  It’s amazing how big of an impact such small changes can have.

To suggest they built them for 40 years, while implying it was a single platform is a bit silly. It was 31 years across three generations. If you really want to get nitty gritty, you might call it 3.5 generations, due to the massive overhaul from ‘62 to ‘63 (major frame and suspension changes).

Have you even seen the Icon stuff from Harbor Freight? It’s fantastic. Also, the people that speak out the loudest against Harbor Freight are usually the ones with the least experience with them or do little to no research before making a purchase. Yes, plenty of Harbor Freight stuff is shit, but plenty of it is…

It looks tall, narrow, and bubbly rather than long, wide, low, and sleek. From the front, it looks straight up like a CUV.

This would make a better table/spreadsheet than attempting to scroll all over the actually compare things.

All of which is trounced by GM’s L3B (310hp and 390 lb-ft or 430 lb-ft)

“Stands behind them” What, like when the frames rust out and they insist it’s not a problem until they finally admit it is?

I’m not very impressed by those numbers. Those numbers aren’t all that much better than what Toyota managed to get almost 20 years ago with the old 1GR-FE V6 (245hp and 282lb-ft). I’d wager it won’t get much—if any—better gas mileage than the 16/20 the 20 year old V6 supposedly got according to the EPA.

Besides having a manual, the Colorado seems more appealing in almost every way. Better looking (that ain’t saying much), better interior, better engine (on paper at least).

Exception being the last handful of people boarding.  By all means, throw it in the first available overhead compartment you come across, since you clearly won’t be “taking” it from someone sitting near there.

I recline and I don’t feel bad at all. If we expect fat people to buy two seats next to each other, why shouldn’t I expect a tall person to buy a bulkhead seat or to purchase two tickets in front/behind each other..

Caravan is such a fantastic name too. Shame it picked up the perceived negative connotation.

Poor planning on the families part does not constitute another person having to give up their chosen seat for a crappier alternative.