Most people that have ridden one, love it.

I wanted to scope out a F800R at my local BMW dealer. They had it parked so close to other bikes on the dealer floor that you could stand in front of it, or behind it. You couldn’t do anything else. They weren’t willing to move it so I could swing a leg over it.

Why bring up RE at all, if it wasn’t meant to contrast it to HD?  And I took his statement to be comparing RE (retro) to HD (the meathead football player).  Not as a comparison between the bike and the rider.

But that being said, why in the hell is there a negative story about HOG struggling when they are running 13+% Net Profit. They are making bank.

One is retro but curious and cosmopolitan, the other is the meathead football player you went to high school with and never moved away.

I don’t want to sound like I’m shitting on RE’s, because I’m not.  But there’s a reason they are so cheap.  Comparing it to a HD is weird.  If you want to compare retro bikes to HD in an attempt to make HD look stupid, use Triumph.

I’ve been wanting a ‘Stich since forever basically. Now that I’ve got the means, I don’t ride enough. Maybe their Ride More guarantee is true, and I’d ride more if I had a Aerostich.

Their a publicly traded company. Just bother to click the “Financials” section for their stock ticker and you’d quickly realize you sound like a complete idiot. Hint: How does ~$59M of licensing revenue (remember, revenue is just gross sales....) translate to $1.9B in gross profit?

Certainly more than two, plus I frequent a few motorcycle websites filled with commenters who are riders (and typically not HD riders) and my general take is most feel similar to I do... though, BMW is usually commenters favorite or least favorite and rarely somewhere in the middle.

Bullshit.

So your experience is from two specific dealers... lol.

It’s far easier for the motorcycle ignorant to just rag on Harley. I’m not a Harley guy, have never owned a Harley, but to think HD is just some poor performing t-shirt company is some old-ass, ignorant trope that gets trotted out by dumb writers and commenters.

“Go into a Harley dealer looking to buy a LiveWire, and the sales staff will steer you away from those “candy-ass” electric bikes because they’re sure you really want a throbbing V-Twin between your legs.”

I don’t believe their is anything saying they can’t buy carbon offsets.  Plus, if you don’t think these teams will be doing weird accounting practices to hit those goals, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

But no one wants to sell; that’s the problem.  The closest (complete rumors) to selling is Dorilton, and even then, it seems like an impossibility.  Also, it seems like Andretti is somewhat deadset on having the team be more American-centric; ie, they’d likely want a majority of their operations in the US, while…

It’s also a bit rich coming from an organization that seems so friendly with Saudi Arabia and other morally corrupt entities.

Even if their strategy had been perfect, I doubt they would have won. The RB was simply too dominate the second half of the season; really, it was dominate from like the fourth race and onwards.

Basically squeezing the shit out of the substrate between two big rollers in a nip point.  The rolls can normally be heated and/or cooled if necessary too.

And burying it was the right thing to do. It bought the company another 20~30 years. The problem is that people seem to think that if Kodak had bought into digital earlier, they would have been successful with that, but the seem to forget that Kodak was the biggest digital camera company for a few years. The problem…

Kodak had over 25,000,000 sq ft of factory (spready over dozens and dozens of buildings) all located at Kodak Park in Rochester. In the late aughts, they tore down roughly 9,000,000 sq ft due to the companies decline. Today, Kodak occupies roughly 10M sq. ft while the rest is leased our or vacant.