Absolutely. Alfa invented the niche that evolved into the M3 with the Giulia Super. The Mk2 was the M5 of the 60s, and the Triumph 2000/Rover P6 invented the compact executive saloon.

Pretty much imagine if companies started making cars to play on their Dakar success.

I was just thinking that the most annoying thing you could do to someone rolling coal is to have an enormous fan than sucks it all into a tube, forces it through a diesel particulate filter and out the other end as clean air.

So does this mean that they're finally going to wake up and make a turbocharged version? I utterly fail to see how that couldn't make them money.

The thing is is that I think it's actually better in production form than it would have been with AWD and a V12. Purely because of weight.

So does this mean that I might be able to get fibreglass springs for my Spitfire in the future and duck under 750kg at the kerb?

Hmmm, $1,000,000 is £588,423.94 in real money according to google.

"So, I suppose you tell men you want them to smile too?" Yep, I do. I don't do it because it makes people look prettier/more handsome either. Most people look pretty/handsome enough as it is :)

I'm glad of that actually. There's too many cars that I want that it says there are around a dozen left in the UK.

Duuude. That is a seriously cool car.

I find this very concerning as well. It's not just this kickass little Fiat, but pretty much all Italian (or even European) cars from this era.

That's monstrous coming from an OHV 2.5l, especially when you consider it's nothing more than a direct evolution of the 803cc, 26bhp Standard 8 I4 engine of the 50s.

Duuude. Bob Tullius and the Group 44 guys are some of my personal heroes. They did so much cool stuff, with a really strong MO. All British sports cars.

Thanks man :)

Apart from the earlier TRs, those were the only Triumphs sold in the US (the Stag only briefly).

I really do like these cars. They're in a real sweet-spot I think. Just a shade over 300bhp, 6sp, ~1500kg (little heavy for the true sweet-spot, that's at 1400kg) and relatively simple.

Yeah, but a Triumph fan can dream :) BMW would never sell it of their own accord.

I'd say so. What we have now is the shuffling resurrected corpse of the effervescent innovation-led, solidly built* Lancia of old, purely there to do Fiat's filing.

Yeah, I know BMW owns the marque. My plan was if I bought the marque from them.

Dated, yes. Underpowered, no. At least outside the US market where they were hit hard by emissions legislation.