I love them as well :)

I absolutely do this. I've got 3 pairs of jeans that are held together with safety pins because I spend my money on car parts.

Triumph, without a doubt.

Ah, I know this. This is Ferrari-speak. I'll try and translate.

"why would you ever pay more for something that is more complex and likely to break"

So everything but the stiffer carbon tub is removable?

True, but if you go sticking one in an MG midget it's going to handle like crap :)

Can't remember whether I posted this in the QOTD, but I'll post it here.

Neat :) so I should be able to take a good proportion of the weight out of an Alfa 159 using the same tactics + some wallet-lightening.

I was just thinking that in the real world, my 205-sectioned, 187bhp '99 four-door saloon gets roughly the same 0-60 as a 252bhp 2012- turbocharged hot hatch.

Is that 25k before or after tax? EU car prices are quoted after, and I think US ones are quoted before but I'm not sure.

Actually, I've found a similar thing happening with the Jag. At low speeds it has trouble keeping up with mid-displacement diesel hatches and the like, or rather you have to push it a little to do so.

I wonder if they deleted the rev limiter for the official 0-60 time so it'd hit 60 in 2nd...

Yeah, I've never been overly concerned with 0-60 (of outright speed at all). It's not even a particularly good metric for how fast a car is.

It's nearly enough that I'd be looking for things wrong with the BMW, although there's a decent number of other potential reasons.

Interesting. I reckon drivetrain loss is probably another big factor too. FWD manual is about as little loss as you can get, with RWD torque-converter auto RWD is nearly as lossy as possible.

Interesting. I wonder what's the cause behind the 7 second 0-60.

Ah, that would probably make more sense.

They're so bog-simple there isn't all that much to go wrong, and if it does they're so easy to work on jobs tend to take half the time they would normally.

This is my favourite Triumph ad.