I just don’t understand what is gained from framing it as if LGBT communities have some special issue with not understanding consent in a society that spawned Roy Moore and elected Donald Trump president.

Yes, the guy himself is. Not only did he say it later in a different interview, but the very first one specifically says that after only two drinks: “I begin feeling very disoriented and dizzy, and I thought I was going to pass out”. I’m a lightweight. My boyfriend makes fun of me all the time because I get buzzed off…

George Takei’s first sexual experience (as a 13 year old with an 18 year old camp counsellor, in 1950) would qualify as molestation today. He doesn’t see it that way because it was normalized to him. He probably had other experiences like that over the course of his youth. Being hidden in the closet, without a queer…

I never tolerate it when I’m in the club(s). I once had a guy walk up to me and literally jam his tongue in my mouth. Smacked that bitch right across the face so hard, he fell. Hee. Yeah, guys are grabby. Sometimes, one of ‘em gets a response they don’t expect.

As a gay man, I can assure, consent is consent, regardless of your orientation.

I’m sure some would, but I sincerely doubt you’d see this largely uniform revulsion from all angles.

Given that rape culture is still prevalent now, I am guessing it was even more extreme 30 years ago, and not every gay person would have gone to a consent workshop even if they were accessible. He also came of age in the 50s and may have felt he knew everything he needed to know by the 80s. And we don’t know if Takei…

Yeah... but a LOT of these stories go way beyond the “subjective” realm. If you’re applying coercive pressure to get sexual satisfaction, you’ve full-stop gone too far.

Were you out in the 1980s? Both lesbians and gay men had health collectives, political associations, activist groups and yes, sex education. Not everyone had access to them, but George Takei certainly did.

Takei is yet another example of why their should never be a statute of limitations on crimes like this. Who cares if it was 40 years ago, he should still be punished if it is true. When you idolize and hold people like Takei above the law, they will abuse that hero worship. We see it in sports and now in Hollyweird?…

Yes, I know. Generally, sexual assault doesn’t usually take place in a room full of witnesses or with cameras rolling. Usually. Generally.

I mean, that sounds fine, but what do you consider concrete evidence? Like actual physical evidence, or just multiple accusers with similarly believable stories? Like, most of these stories don’t have hard evidence, just a preponderance of people with similar stories all coming forward.

I’m watching a lot of the conversation between my gay friends on social media. A few seem to have the same feeling you do about how different things were in the past. Others feel like that’s making excuses.

I’ll admit I’m no expert, (and have never experienced it myself) but I’m under the impression simple “blacking out” doesn’t work that way. “Blacking out” is when, for whatever reason, (usually too much alcohol too quick) short term memories fail to be converted into long term memories. Short term memories aren’t…

Shatner was KGB this whole time.

Ben....it’s time to talk to you about your Aunt Petunia.

Hmmm. As a gay man myself, I can assure you that groping someone who was passed out, or lying on top of a 14 year old, was never a valid outlet of oppressed gay sexuality even in the 80s.

We’ve now reached the point where you really have to either believe all the accusers or none of them, unless there’s concrete evidence one way or the other. Otherwise you find yourself doing mental gymnastics to justify why someone you don’t like did it, but someone whom you do like couldn’t have possibly.

Thats right George the Russians are going to use fake sexual assault allegations to take down a washed up celebrity who yells on twitter instead of the guy currently investigating Trump and Russian collusion.

If you didn’t do it, just say you didn’t do it, and leave it at that. Don’t say anything else. Stop digging holes for yourself, George.