When I looked at the page, Grifter II looked like the closest match, but not perfect. Oh well. I will push onward!

What style is this? I really like them.

Decided to take my dad to a shooting range for Father's Day. He enjoys some good target practice and hasn't been in years.

Mine has an o-ring, but it is just "water resistant".

Don't most viruses come from sites where you would literally have your pants down anyway?

The rainy season is not "ending" in a few weeks. It is just getting started.

Great shorts. They are routinely on sale here. Check private stash as well

Wow. You just wasted at least an hour of your time replying to me. A person who you have never met or seen before in your life, and you lost your argument. How does that make you feel?

Only this better than that is getting one of these and putting a live boot Linux distro on it:

Mailbox. Best. App. Ever.

You specifially said:

Once again, if you are talking about that Specialized that you posted a link for, it is a different class of cycle! You can't do a comparison. And what is "this" bike that we are talking about? I already established that the Labmo was overpriced and a collector's item. Are you speaking of the non-lambo BMC which it is…

I am not trolling, or being a jackass. I am stating the facts of the sport. There are improvements made in these $10,000+ bikes that are not in Sub $5000 bikes. Being a serious cyclist is expensive. I don't ride one of these $2000+ bikes, but I do know the value in them. Especially for pro riders.

Are you mad because all you can afford is a $80 mongoose from wallyworld? I don't think anyone even understands what you mean by "competitive". Do you mean that a pro biker on a cheap bike could beat a 200lb noobie on a $20,000 bike? No duh.

These bikes are designed for pros, not weekend warriors. Frame is only part of the equation. Think of the shifters, derailuers, wheels, brakes, etc...

Materials and labor. There is obviously a HUGE surcharge for the Lambo branding, but it is still a very nice bike.

I am a cyclist, and my imagination is not a source of reference. And a $400 mountain bike is going to be a good starter bike, but in a couple months you will be longing for a $1000+ bike. Also, the specialized bike is not in the same class as the BMC.

Um, no. The components and types of metals they use in high-end bikes are super expensive. You could probably get a $10,000-$15,000 bike that would be competitive with this.

This sounds like a job for.... SECRET AGENT DENNIS RODMAN!

It must be like hell, but cold.