Japanese government subsidizes it—might as well see if Californians will try, too. Also see the Mazda MX-30 and Honda Clarity BEV.

Say what you will, but it’s definitely a ‘thing’.

That’s not an old car. This is an old car.

I guess to me it’s about who came up with the exact combination of mechanical and body shape formula (more or less) first. The Rancho was the first mass-market CUV because it was a transverse FWD enclosed wagon that looked like an SUV. The unibody XJ has a longitudinal engine so it’s more of an ancestor to luxury…

Almost none of these will have running costs as cheap as a Versa (which also has a warranty), and just imagine trying to finance a 17 year old Merc with a poor credit score—immediately terrible idea. People who buy cheap cars buy them to get around reliably, they’re not looking for a screaming deal on an exhilarating…

Now from factory!

And even then the Ocean is just another CUV. It’s different enough to be interesting the first time you see it, but the next ten times you just think ‘huh, a matte RAV4' and nothing more.

Is it even that revolutionary? To me it just looks like three normal screens embedded in a giant ugly pane of glass.

I dunno, they’re fine I guess...

This. Easily an electrical gremlin, something similar caused crank/no-start on our ‘05 V50 which, after being towed to our indie, started immediately first try. Gotta love the ‘quality’ of these P1 cars. 

A Canadian on Oppositelock owned a 2014 Kia Forte with no A/C for quite some time. 

Also if you keep your minivan forever like my parents did eventually it becomes your small beater truck. With all the seats out I’ll borrow it to haul furniture, my dad uses it to bring in manure for the yard, and he’s even moved my grandmothers’ entire apartment in a couple trips with that thing. Never underestimate…

It’s gotten SO much worse. Look at how the Odyssey (gen3) and Sienna (gen2) used to be:

P2 Volvos and their flap handles.

Easy. They threw away all their brand equity by making years of terrible sedans that forced people to the Japanese (see: my grandparents, my other grandparents, my roommates parents, etc.) leaving them with a rental-only market share that doesn’t net them fat margins because rental companies only buy low-trim models…

Considering the Petersen just got in a pristine 2nd gen Neon, perhaps they should buy this and find a Cavalier to have the full set.

The benefit of buying a Tesla is that they are by far the most produced EV in the USA, so replacement parts for Telsas will be plentiful.

James May’s Cars of the People is one of the best. Reminds me of Clarkson’s Car Years from back in the ‘90s.

Agreed. This is all just change for change’s sake, doesn’t improve or fix anything that was wrong with the original.

People say the Mirage but no one mentioned the ASX/Outlander Sport?