Some major car magazine(s) tested the Miata 5.8 sec to 60. And faster around a track, even a track that favors a more powerful car.

They’re fun to drive no doubt, whatever the reason.

I don’t want to see the repair bill on any 10 year old modern car. They’re all throwaway cars. Have been since at least 2010. 2000 for Europe.

I don’t think I’ve read a single magazine test that didn’t have at least some mechanical issue with the car during their time with it.

For 5+ times the price on the used market I would expect it to. That’s a lot of tires and trackdays. On paper its obviously better, but I prefer the way the Miata drives, to an extent that the difference in performance isn’t enough to make me want to get one, especially if it meant getting rid of my Miata.

And its less powerful than ones available even a couple years ago, even as turbo engines become the norm. See why people don’t like it?

Meanwhile I’m tracking mine on racing tires and what is basically street-sport suspension and its a blast.

I think I could show you how haha. Its all about finding someone that can be patient and teach you in a way that clicks for your brain. There are also some tricks to getting a car rolling without stalling, but it comes down to having a teacher that will show you how to make those decisions. I took a friend out who was…

The difference is the engine in the S2000 is unique and a bit of a crazy machine. It made more HP/liter than any other N-A engine until the Ferrari 458. Yes you have to rev the pants off it to make power...but it revs like an exotic. Its nuts. The 86 is much more off-the-shelf. It isn’t as fun to put your foot down…

How is it not an option? Learn to drive manual. It takes a day.

I don’t really see a need to get one when I already have a Miata. The Miata driving experience is a little more raw and organic while the S2000 is a bit more clinical. Miata shifter feels like you’re doing something major and mechanical but still has a certain svelteness to it. I feel that way with everything about…

I don’t have a photo of it because it was 2005 and I didn’t have a camera with me. But I saw a Ferrari Enzo street parked in Aspen.

How dare they put gravel there!

Exactly. Also on most VW/Audis the Engine in sport just pumps more fake sound through the speakers.

I don’t see how the track or the org is required to provide you with big safe cooshy runoff area. Look at Sonoma Raceway. It’s all concrete walls with almost no runoff. When you drive there you’re supposed to understand that and drive within your limits. Laguna has a fair amount of runoff in several places, and a lot…

If I went off in my Miata, hit the sandbag, and flipped the car I would totally eat the cost. It would’ve been my fault for going off. The track isn’t required to give you big safe runoff areas at every turn. Look at Sonoma Raceway...there’s basically no runoff, just walls.

It’s like the knew you’d end up looking at the cluster circuit board....

I’d say the turbo-4 is an improvement over the NA6 and both have the Turbo I6. The steering is a big thing, but the 2'er still should feel fairly good. Hell, Road & Track, or was it Car & Driver (I dunno, but Travis was part of the article), liked the 228i the most of the 228i/m235i/m2/1m comparison test they did.

I don’t think so, because the 2 series really isn’t that different. Though I prefer the 1 series.

You don’t live longer, it just feels longer.