You’re so fixated on regurgitating Jalopnik group think you don’t even realize this is an all new vehicle. W/e man

Have you driven a new one?

There’s enough electricity to charge cars. The grid is no issue, and utilities will be happy to build up the grid to sell more electricity. A near complete lack of demand and a sparse, disjointed charging network are the main hurdles.

This is a steeeaaaaaallllllll

I am honestly tired of complaints about markups. Two parties volunatrily enter and complete a deal. What more is there to it? If someone wants to pay 2x the price of a vehicle that will sell at MSRP in a year, more power to them and the dealers able to profit from it. Everybody wins

Haha, sort of.

I dont mind them as long as they can store a charging phone. Unfortunately that seems like a tall ask

I think it would be better to just reward drivers/riders for being better drivers/riders. We don’t need to take advanced training courses to not speed, tailgate, left lane camp, ride aggressively, play on our phones etc. which is probably 90% of what it takes to stay safe on the street.

Being overly slow and cautious is much better than the opposite.

Enthusiasts put way too much stock in courses and training. Don’t get me wrong.... MSF BRC is a great course and a no brainer for new riders. But for starters over time most people forget all the details of what they learned in it. Many might pass the course but not really retain anything taught by it at all. And like…

Car enthusiasts love to confuse being a skilled driver with a good driver. And a lot of times we aren’t even that skilled.... just aggressive and overconfident. On the street good = safe, which doesn’t require Chris Harris driving skills.

Everything about this comment is approaching perfection.

Glad to see Lotus focusing on what people actually buy vs what they claim to want to impress people on the internet. Very few people actually have the money, time and roads/tracks to actually enjoy a Lotus in its element. That unattainable fantasy is what people find so attractive. In reality something like a…

IIRC the SQ8 has air ride, active roll bars and rear wheel steering, which would all combine to allow it to cover a wide swath of the comfort-handling spectrum. I know the normal Q8 is not much taller than a modern station wagon when its air ride is slammed, so dynamically I bet it’s a wash; but on the comfort side…

W/o checking, I’d guess the SQ8 has more sidewall, suspension travel, and sprung vs unsprung weight

I’m almost certain that’s bullshit dry weight. That said, even at ~410-420lb, 178HP on a naked is gonna be a lot.

If I buy another street bike it will probably be a Triumph with a triple. Nothing compares to the triple honk.

Yep, all of this too. And you’d probably have to go to the racetrack on a regular basis to make the most of the dynamic differences between this and an SQ8.

A fast anything for $30K is damn near impossible. And that $150K wagon will be $30K............ eventually. There are a handful of cars on the road today that will retain their value BaT style......................... but I don’t think this will be one of them.

Again I accounted for that growth. Tesla sales would have to increase by 100x, which even factoring in population growth and emerging markets just isn’t possible.