I’m unsure if you’re serious, or just trolling, or even worse, some sort of Nissan fan-boi.

Looks don't matter in this segment. If they did the CX-5 wouldn't be a niche player

Sales are dwindling because it's ancient. And even still it's the #7 top seller in the US. You have no idea what you're talking about

Escape is hardly a class leader. I think most cars in this class change every 5 years. 2021 would be year 8 for this gen of Rogue. How much longer should Nissan wait?

So much shameless misinformation. For starters Nissan isn’t going full speed ahead with anything. They’ve shut down plants and scaled back operations like everyone else. So from that we know they won’t have months and months of inventory piled up by the time this launches. Secondly having the new Rogue in showrooms by…

Yes, I’m very familiar with Nissan’s problems. Are you familiar with all the things they are doing to rectify them, like updating their ancient lineup?

How is updating the highest selling, most important model in the lineup "torpedoing the company"? Are we just completely giving up on logic and going for the most Jalop takes?

I think you’re grossly overstating the importance of pathos in the mind of someone buying a commodity vehicle like a Rogue or Altima. Most people buying such vehicles don’t like cars at all and just need a means of conveyance.

Nissan’s identity needs to center on value then. “Excitement” is irrelevant in the mainstream as far as actually selling cars and sustaining the business goes.

Wasn’t there a German market only MK5 Golf with a TDI W16 option? Piech was one crazy fox.

No. We as enthusiasts need to stop employing this tortured logic to present our desires as smart business. Nissan doesn’t need to mean anything. The only thing Nissan’s most successful competitors mean to the majority of consumers is high value reliable transportation. Which makes sense as these companies are all…

Now more than ever Nissan needs to focus on what matters. Update the volume models- interior, exterior, infotainment, transmissions. Kill off the ancient, low selling resource hogs- that’s right, the Z and GT-R. Nobody is buying a Rogue or Sentra because they love the GT-R. Halo cars are a hoax enthusiasts use to…

Catering to enthusiasts is a fool’s errand in 2020. We talk a good game but BMW can’t find enough of us in the US to sell a manual 3 series.

Saying Nissan was on the level of Toyota/Honda on the back of the Sentra SE-R/Maxima is like saying Mitsubishi was on the back of the EVO. Nissan has always been a second tier value player when you look across its whole lineup.

It’s still worth going out and testing cars. Seats are all shaped differently and who knows how they actually measure legroom. My G37 supposedly didn’t have much leg room but it was cavernous compared to my similarly specced (and bigger) TLX.

Stop reporting this horse shit please. 

It’s not impressive. It's fucking stupid. Endurance racing on a closed and private race track is impressive. This is just stupid, dangerous and childish. Corona virus or not.

Pedantry- the hallmark of someone unwilling to admit how shitty their argument is.

I have a kid so I have done a lot of research on this all as well. The key spec to look at is combined legroom. At 80.8" your Legacy had pretty decent room, but pretty standard for a midsizer. I think my 2013 Optima had like 81" total and was cavernous. The current one is just as big.

I mean I agree that there are probably too many brands and models in the market place that don’t really have a reason to exist, but from the consumer’s perspective I don’t see how more choice is a bad thing. And most companies do operate in the way you suggest.