I’ve said for a long time that a 17 million SAAR has always seemed unrealistic, and the extreme lengths (long financing, ever increasing incentives etc) the industry takes to prop that number up shows how weak demand really is. Sadly I figured it was going to take some kind of recession to bring things to reality.

I’m waiting to see how the Jalopnik hivemind takes this. Everyone and everything the hivemind hates is getting its just due thanks to COVID-19. Evil scummy dealerships are all on the brink of going out of business. Stupid wasteful new car buying plebes can’t buy the crossovers the hivemind hates or the SUVs and…

Meh, keep regurgitating Jalopnik hive mind hot take gibberish because you don’t have the capacity, balls or experience driving/buying cars to form interesting and original opinions about them. You could be replaced with a bot and nobody would notice.

It must have been a huge Fiat.

No....making cars people want to buy.

I think our site has been pretty good about covering how our economy is tied to buying new cars.

So you think the measure of whether a company should live or die is whether or not they make pointless money wasting halo cars?

Fuck facts when they don’t let me vilify the rich!

People also died a lot more in those old cars because they were crap. Child seats and general attitudes towards child restraints in cars were more lax. And people are bigger + taller than before. You need a midsize sedan just to safely fit a rear facing child seat behind the average American adult (though compacts…

What does “sharpness” have to do with my post?

Being underwater only matters if you total the car or have to sell it quickly.

Lol. Now who is the idiot

People ARE buying Elantras. 

People ARE buying sensible cars. Have you looked at the top selling vehicles in the US? When the fuck did this place get so high and mighty?

I doubt this affects that many new car buyers- again the average length of ownership is almost 84 months and much longer than the 70 month average:

I hate the alarmist half truths here. Yes the average loan is long. But the average ownership time is much longer. And the average car on the road is older. So the question is are long loans bad if people are paying them off and holding on to cars longer? In my opinion no, and with a complete picture we are able to…

Still can't believe Ducati beat Harley to the Scrambler sub brand. That was the nail in the coffin

The V6 in the XJ220 was Jaguar’s Acura cake. It was perfectly adequate and got the job done.... but the promise was a V12.

Yep I said as much above. I don’t know if these are expensive, or similarly priced V8 pony cars/6 cyl luxury coupes are cheap, but for the money there’s no way I’m buying a Hyundai when I can have a V8 Rustang or I6 BMW.

This price isn’t bad, but if you have $17K to spend on a used coupe I’m struggling to think of why you would pick this over pretty much anything else. Sure the miles are low, but that could be good or bad. Similar money puts you in something like a BMW 435i/V8 pony car/etc. of the same year and normal mileage. All of…