Lies!! Here is it without camo :)

Where is mythical F-150 hybrid that was supposed to come out with in 2012? Have a citation for it?

Actually it’s biggest market is going to be in controlled areas in the next couple years where things don’t change that much. I’m thinking trams that pickup passengers in theme parks and bring them to the gate. On the open road with weather (snow/heavy rains/etc) we are long ways off. I figure about the time I’m ready…

This explains it a bit better then I could

Making a profit off it is a big reason why they haven’t, but in another 5-10 years, I believe the vast majority of cars will be PHEVs or HEVs, till BEV pricing comes down to under $40K without incentives

Actually the low lying fruit has already been picked with MPGs-Going from 20-30MPG is Miniscule when it comes to savings. Just as an example-the savings in gas yearly from buying an Ecosport over a Fiesta is only like $250 a year at current gas prices. The difference between a gasser RWD F-150 2.7L vs Diesel is the…

Using the Fiesta vs Ecosport as a metric-you’d only pay about an extra $250 a year (@25k miles a year at$2.80 gallon) on the Ecosport gas wise-which is what $5 bucks a week roughly?

GM didn’t shrink enough when they went bankrupt almost 10 years ago. They still have too many plants building product that isn’t needed or wanted.

What it boils down to is that GM needed to cut much more then they did when they went bankrupt. The Bankruptcy gave them a clean slate, but they still have too much manufacturing capacity for the overall market, thus why your seeing why they are doing now.

This chart calls bullshit on people buying cars because of gas prices. Back in 2013 or so, Gas was above $3 bucks a gallon. The 2013 Explorer had one of its best selling years for the current generation too.

That’s exactly the point-the sedan market is shrinking, there is a lot of players in the market and the profit margins aren’t there to support investing into it. Even Honda has to slap incentives on the Accord, which was more or less a new design because sales/demand is falling

When has buying a car been an rational decision? If that’s the case, why not buy a used car? It’s cheaper then both. 

Cheapest I got 93 was a year or two ago at around $2.25 or so. It hovering around $2.75 or so now. NJ gas taxes spiked up about 10-20 cents a gallon last fall. 

Which is the reason why automakers are moving on from sedans-why sell 300k of something at $5 a pop vs selling something @ $9 a pop at 200k? 

For everyone bitching about future gas prices, check this out:

The “new” Truck is going to be the updated Super Duty with the new 7.3L V8 and 10 speed transmission across the board.

I get what your saying-but given how expensive a vehicle can be brand new (car payment/insurance/gas) a month-offering someone a product/subscription that is a couple $100 cheaper a month, is going to get a long hard look at by people. Enthusiasts won’t go for it, but also remember we only make up a limited percentage…

Neutral: IMO sedans are dying off-Newer CUVs offer almost the same gas mileage with more practicality. Sedans might survive as niche products like coupes

Because it was a bone thrown to the plant to keep them open. They’ll make the “classic”version till the end of next year. 

You wouldn’t buy one, but you’d be more likely to pay for a subscription service ala Uber or Lyft to get you around.