He’s good, but he’s not quite Dalton.

But you can: Get a bunch of screenshots, import to photoshop, make collage, make transparent layer, trace collage, fill lines with gray and sometimes trash or bruised fruit colors. Voila! Chris Stout is born.

The second quote was when Alfred had cranked the Stereotypical Cockney Menace-o-Meter up to 11. He had just promised to tuck someone up like a kipper. It was a pretty intentionally hilarious exchange, actually.

I was hoping Essen wouldn’t die, bc of my Burn Notice fanboyness. Effin’ hell. Should’ve realized it when they fridged Nick’s mom in Grimm. Mediocre written shows can’t give mother figures a break.

Booo!! I mean I knew Essen was going to die at some point to make way for Gordon and they telegraphed her death so hard with the “I’m not going to waste this! I am going to make things better!” speech. She may as well have said she was 3 days from retirement and showed a picture of her loving family she was looking…

You vastly overestimate your fellow man. Perhaps in your circle it is widely known. Even on this site. But go to a random WalMart and try and see if folks there know what it is....you will be in for a shock....

I loved it too. Some people just don't get the Muppets :(

And hasn’t Animal... always kind of had a voracious love life?

they have always had jokes that were meant for the adults in the room AND the softball jokes that catered to the younger crowd.

Yeah, I have never been comfortable with Miss Piggy as a character.

Not to mention that Kermit was on the run in the first movie because Doc Hopper was chasing him in order to murder him for food. That right there is messed up.

In the Muppet Movie, Miss Piggy walked out on Kermit after demanding he take her on a date and practically planning their future together because he agent called and had a commercial on offer for her to star in...

Seriously. It certainly wasn’t amazing, but it was surprisingly funny at times. At least they’re trying a different look for decades old characters. I liked it.

I hate to point it out, but one of the reasons the whole theater format worked in the 70’s was because well...a lot of shows still were in theaters like that one. Austin City Limits used to be broadcast nationwide, for example, and was done in a vaudeville sort of theater, for example. In the modern day, I can’t think…

I really think nostalgia is the mind killer here. I liked seeing these characters in a contemporary setting dealing with the issues they were dealing with in mockumentary format. I thought it was very funny.

I disagree. The show reminded me so much of the movies which always had more adult humor slipped in. (In Muppets Take Manhattan Rizzo hit on Brooke Shields asking her if she believed in “interspecies relationships.” To which Shields said without a blink, “Do you mean have I ever dated a rat? Yeah, I have.” Even as a…

I think the reason people associate the muppets with “gentle humor and good natured goofiness” because of Sesame Street, Fraggle Rock, etc.

Where this new Muppets television show goes wrong, I think, is in playing up the undercurrent of neurosis and adult self-loathing that was always present in The Muppet Show and the movies.

I’m with you. Nostalgia clouding mindsit seems.

In my opinion you are looking at the Muppets with the glasses of Nostalgia, they have always had jokes that were meant for the adults in the room AND the softball jokes that catered to the younger crowd.