I’m just gonna say this. It seems that a lot of these sort of “male feminist” types who turn out to be awful are coming out of feminist-ish sites (Jezebel, broadly) that want to do feminism but still have boys like them. I mean.... Tracie Egan Morrissey was the EIC at the time and there’s no doubt she has a fuckton of…

This is the perfect way to put it. Do you watch the good place? Because “not talking about one’s veganism” is worth more good points than just “veganism” which should be a lesson to us all.

Lol no, it’s like “not seeing color.” Sure, not having to think about feminism is the end goal, but you can’t just not think about it and say “end goal! sexism over!”

Yes. It is so normal. Because being assaulted by someone you thought cared about you and was safe is not just traumatic because of the assault - it’s also traumatic because the not-caring is a rejection of sorts.

Oh yeah I forgot that people enter a concert and then never leave.....

I actually didn’t realize she would stop the show and do that kind of policing - someone above clued me in. That’s not okay at all. I stand by the fact that a lot of these reactions aren’t about that though - they’re about the “reverse racism” of the idea of asking women of color to come to the front in the first…

Well that was nasty and unnecessary.

The singling out is definitely not good, and if she is in fact policing it in the way you say then you’re right, it isn’t helpful.

I just think it’s interesting that you chose to point this out on a post about a WOC “paying lip service.” It just seems a little... unrelated and derailing.

What do we do about it though, you know?

Why are you fucking cross-examining people Dick Wolf?

Re: one song, I believe she does this at a specific point in her show but could be wrong. I also don’t believe I need to address your every question and point for my perspective to be valid - this isn’t a pop quiz.

Why do you think that’s the case here?

OMFG no one is policing who is there. If you’re there with your white friend and bring them up and you’re clearly together, what do you think you’re going to get kicked out? Put in concert jail?

Please explain to me how asking WOC (who want to) to move to the front for one song at a concert in order to reverse the typical makeup of the front is supremacy. I am all ears.

FTR, I got the sarcasm in the first one (only acceptable when said to white women) but not the second one.

It’s just mind-boggling. It’s ALSO hilarious that they get mad about articles like this “spreading the Bernie Bro myth.” They are doing a fine job of that themselves.

You started this interaction by calling me a fucking moron and have offered nothing but tantrums about how stupid everyone who disagrees with you is since but the rest of us need to grow up.

Brocialist is my fave, personally.

Ooooooh fun the “any criticism of Bernie means that Trump will be president forever!” take.