You seem very focused on only what you believe to be true, you seem to be perceiving that as facts, and again, that’s not a conversation I want to have. But you can’t just state that a hypothetical definitely would have happened. For instance “true believer” is an incredibly subjective phrase and tells me that you’re…

Illogical was the wrong word, sorry. Unfortunately I’m not able to come up with a better one at the moment.

Okay, we have gone down the rabbit hole into completely illogical and I think there is no need to continue this exercise.

It’s really not necessary to call me names.

Do I think it’s a coincidence that that voice is less..... shrill? No I do not.

Re the first: debatable since he doesn’t seem to care about a few things that are extremely important to me. Re the second: yeah duh. Re the last: Well no, it’s not. Because he’s a voice and a leader of the progressive movement right now. He has significant backing still and tremendous influence over the direction of…

If this thread is any indication, it won’t matter even if they do.

Uhhhh if your source is a Trump pollster it’s probably time to take a step back and re-evaluate.

So only independently wealthy candidates who can fund their own elections should run until you find one that meets your subjective standards? I mean, don’t you see how that’s just another kind of elitism?

Kinda hard to fund a multi-million dollar campaign without donations....

I actually hope they both endorse the same person; I think that would be much more healing than them staying quiet. But I get what you’re saying.

Democrats, by and large, ARE behind the policies Bernie repeats over and over and over again. Single payer health insurance being the exception, and that’s a mix of sticking with the president of your party, trying what seems like it will be more likely to work, etc. in terms of Obamacare. Bernie, to his immense…

I do too! And I think it will not involve anyone from the 2016 election. Hopefully then we can measure each candidate on their own merits.

You are the one who wants to talk about Hillary, which belies your claim to not give a fuck about her. But okay. I hope Bernie comes through on his promises. You seem to have some knowledge that I don’t about his actions vs. his words. I hope you’re right, God knows we need it.

Thanks! That’s an interesting poll for sure. I would point out, though, that the same is generally true for all of the liberal/democrat individuals mentioned, and by similar margins. Which of course makes sense because white voters have more Republicans. The really interesting sample, which may be further down in the…

There’s a looooooot of assumptions about me and what I think you just made. I’m not mad, I’m bored. As tiresome as you find the anti-Bernie bandwagon, I find it similarly tiresome that Bernie continues to be held to the metric of “did Hillary say something worse?!”

Cite your sources please.

And also now!

You’re right. Hillary did say that. It was racist. Can we move on now?

Oh definitely. I also think that if we all look at our healthiest relationships, and think about the way we fight, most of us do this anyway, because it comes naturally when you’re giving a real, genuine apology.