I think I have made my positions very clear, and fortheloveofbeets provided an excellent paraphrase further up thread. Is there something specific that's frustrating you?

I'm not advocating niceness. "Nice" is externally dictated. An oppressor chooses what "nice" is, and it not-so-coincidentally lines up with accepting oppressive behavior. The word "nice" has not appeared in a single post of mine anywhere in this thread. Nor has the word "polite" or "respectable".

Peaceful, non-violent protests and civil disobedience have been the cornerstone of several civil rights movements around the world and throughout history.

My personal identity is complex and multifaceted and detailed elsewhere. Why don't you write two posts. One in which you're responding as if I was black, and the other as if I wasn't.

That's a great response. I guess what I'm saying is the following hypothetical conversation

What does "respecting that person's views" entail? Does that mean we shouldn't do things if any POC of our acquaintance objects to them on racial grounds? What's the threshold here?

Thanks for putting it another way :)

I hope he's punished to the fullest extent of the law, and finds every door shut to him for the rest of his life. He deserves to live out the rest of his days miserable, in loneliness and isolation, to feel the fullest consequences of his actions.

At some point in your life, it is guaranteed that you, willsomeonethinkofthechitlins, will do or have done something that causes someone severe pain and anguish. Do you believe that you deserve to die in a fire?

If you are that cynical, then yes, you're right. I don't choose to see the world that way.

They're the ones in charge. I'm the one trying to get them to give me something they don't want to give. Whether I like it or not, they make the rules.

This is also the internet. Nice diction is not a given.

You don't say "I love you" until they change. That wasn't what I was trying to say.

I don't "not see color". Racism is real, systematic, and oppressive. There's no such thing as reverse racism. I didn't say that anger has no place in this. Anger is real, and deserved, and can be righteous. Racism isn't a "pesky thing people do". None of that is incompatible with love and compassion.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I hope that soon, no one will have to live a life that leads them to think of love and compassion as "bullshit". No will ever have to live with so much anger inside them.

Love, compassion, etc. are not finite quantities. I don't "run out" of love if I give too much. That means I can't waste it.

My point is that even if they deserve it, you're not actually doing anything except making yourself feel good for a moment. It's like a drug high. Good for a minute, and then you feel like shit. I've never seen an activist who said they felt exhausted and drained after expressing love and compassion. Only after…

if a person really wants to learn,my anger and criticism shouldn't make them suddenly change their minds.

I didn't say no criticism. I the most effective criticism comes from a place of love. Anger has it's place. It's a fuel for passion and action and behavior. But it's a destructive force, like fire. Like fire, it has to be marshaled and controlled, or it will hurt people.