Quick question: Do you vanguard the Kinja updates and run the system as a whole? I do find it a rather interesting system and don't have any problems using it. I always see Jalopnik doing Kinja updates before other Gawker sites.

For what it's worth, that's a 2002turbo.

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What free market? China has a much more free market. And China is communist.

Completely agree. And don't get me started on states which pass laws forbidding municipal internet providers.

Couldnt you make the point that if you want the governments money then you also must abide by the restrictions that comes with it? You know like their $40-50k tesla that was mandatory for them to get the money from the gov... what did they do with their plans for that?

Good point. Let's also ban sales by Ford and Nissan who received the exact same loan but like 10x as much money.

"Free market" exists only as empty rhetoric in the US. At the same time, a totally free market allows for anti-competitive practices and diminished innovation. It's in all of our best interest to use public money to support innovative ideas that don't pay off immediately but which will have enormous impact in the long…

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Clearly Musk needs to buy more politicians in red states.

If you bypass the dealer, the consumer is left without a convenient source for Teflon paint sealant, fabric and leather protectant, undercoating, window-tinting, spoilers, extended warranty, specialty floormats, VIN-etched windows, pinstripes, special edition badging, credit insurance, market value adjustments, and…

Were you making that free-market argument when the government was propping up Tesla and Fisker with billions in taxpayer cash and exemptions?

This has nothing to do with anything other than yet another attempt by GOP politicians making some sort of lame idealogical stand against something-anything- that could be construed as progressive or otherwise not of the status-quo. Bottom line: " None of those "Greenie" cars in our state!!"

Exactly.

In response to your finance fleecing, this is why I always go to my credit union or bank and get preapproved financing. Then I can walk into the dealer knowing what I can spend and what im paying. Takes all the unknowns out of the finance guys hands, you now control the deal. I dont ever tell them up front either. …

I had a 05 V70R for a few years and now an 05 Outback XT. The V70r was fun, but as you mention, not ideal for rougher NYC area roads. The XT has some of the same pep, but handles the rough stuff much better.

I think there are a bunch of different factors in the new and used debate, like what kind of vehicle you are buying, how long you plan to keep it, what your time frame for buying is, how mechanically savvy you are, ect.

I created a burner account (the log on via google and facebook sucks because I hate them) just to post this car.

Seatbelts. The car doesn't move unless everyone is belted. My mother would pull over to the side of the road and embarrass the hell out of us if we didn't have them on. That happened twice.

I totally did. :)