too right. This is one of the legends

there's nothing to indicate sarcasm in that first post. I always assume people are idiots before I assume they're being sarcastic.

fiat 500 abarth 0-60 in 7.2 seconds and .85 g roadholding

actually I have, and, just like every other fwd "sports" car I've driven, I felt uninspired. And seeing as the kinds of people who buy modern fiats are the same granola-munchers who frequent pretentious coffee shops ordering $5 machiatos, I definitely do associate soft-skinned hipsters with the 500. The abarth is a…

How do you know I haven't driven one? My beef with the stupid car is how much people charge for them. $25K for a small slow hatch? No thanks. It has a good sound but that's it. Also tough words coming from someone who'd drive a bloody fiat

For some reason I love when that happens... just not to me

"a barf" is more like it, which is what I do when I hear people pay $25K for them.

says the guy who drives a fiat 500

okay but your macho attitude won't get you far 'round here, amigo.

Also one of the best sounding cars ever

were they? even the latter GT fours with the big wing?

Here are the best reasons the beatniks who voted w123 could come up with:

I would drive one in Europe, sure. They're probably dirt cheap to maintain over there, much like our domestic fords, chevys and dodges are here. The reason I wouldn't ever want a VW here is because they're crazy overpriced for what they are. The nightmarish things I hear relate to what mechanics and parts dealers…

I'm not a subaru fanboy so you don't have to keep bringing them up. I can only imagine the pain of doing engine work on a flat 4 or 6 but that doesn't mean I'd ever drive a boring VW instead. I'm a person of compromise so either way, if I had to choose a utilitarian car, it'd be a burbly 'rex with a hood scoop instead…

I've heard nightmarish things happening to mkIV's and my brother's friend has a mkV rabbit and its wheel snapped off while driving. That's enough to put me off any VW except classics and corrados.

It's got the torque to pull anything, the ride to clear everything, and the size to haul whatever.

The downsides include: you're in a golf, it'll probably fall apart, and you'll constantly be wondering why you didn't buy a subie for the money.

Simply uproarious! Jolly good mate!

well according to this, most opponaughts prefer a c10 skyline over a 2002. Don't know how this helps...

In 1964 you could buy a Fairlane Thunderbolt which was a stripped out fairlane for drag racing. Kinda like a cobra jet, except the engine you got was a high-rise 427 cammer with 12.7-1 COMPRESSION AND IT MADE OVER 600 HP IN 1964!!!! Madness! Also a shortened wheelbase and intake through the headlights looks badass.