Yes, but it’s not a full hybrid

1st gear: I’ve stated this before, but the next round of tax incentives should not go to plug-in hybrids, but only full EVs.

Ohio River, for sure. In fact, southern OH, IL and IN would qualify culturally as well.

That’s like 8000 Taco Bell Bean Burritos. That would keep my seats toasty warm for about 10 years.

I’m betting a roughly $30k midsize pickup (Canyon, Tacoma, Frontier) is the same size as a 20 year old F150/Silverado.

Why would they do that when Ford will likely crank out 150,000 $90,000 Lightnings and sell out for the first few years?

The Mason-Dixon Line is north of Virginia, thus Virginia is most definitely part of The South.

I suppose the long seat travel necessitated the airbags in the seatbacks, so Toyota prioritized seating comfort vs. cargo space. They could’ve still offered a seating option with less seating comfort and more cargo flex, but like mention most people won’t care until they do.

BMW 128i stick if you can find one.

IMO, the only answer these days is the Sienna. You get the same space and hybrid efficiency with 36 mpg.  Maybe the Pacifica PHEV.

1990 Camry bought used in 1996 and traded in 2001. I had a fond dream about it three nights ago that I still owned it.

Agree. She totally got it.

Millions is being poured into making the car selling process as automated as the purchasing has become.

They don’t. And even in rural areas of those places (especially CA), it’s usually possible to get around on transit. It’s not quick or convenient, but it’s possible.  And low income people do it.  They also ride bikes.  You might not notice them, but they do.

I did cross country (BOS-SFO --- 3,100 miles) several times in 3 days by myself. Grueling 16 hour days, but I did it.

If you wanted a really meaningful test you’d include petrol and diesel cars too.

Now try a RAV4 prime. Or an EV.

Doesn’t suck if transit is good. Visit someplace with good transit… you won’t want to drive either.

Low income people don’t typically buy new cars. And really low income people don’t have cars. They take transit. Ride bikes. Walk.

Over the past 2-3 years, it seems the number of companies buying used cars has multiplied. I’m not saying it’s not easier for the owner of the car to sell, but I do wonder if they’re bidding up the prices.