Agreed. What really bothers me is that especially in the US, most people are repulsed by animal cruelty and they wouldn’t even be able to bring themselves to slaughter an animal humanely if they had to do it firsthand, but “hahaha meat is delicious tho.” The flippancy is pretty disturbing if you have the guts to…
Thank you for eloquently articulating what I was trying to say.
Only Clinton is paying people, remember? According to the most rabid Bernie supporters, so far Clinton has paid off PP, the HRC, Ta-nehisi Coates, and maybe Gabrielle Giffords (they can’t decide whether it’s brain damage or money). I wish Elizabeth Warren would come out and support Clinton, just for the conspiracies.
I’m still baffled that a literal career politician can accuse others of being part of the “establishment”. You’ve been in congress for 35 years, Bernie. If you’re not part of the establishment yet, what the fuck have you been doing with your time there? Just whining about changes but not making meaningful ones happen?…
When it came time to stand with PP, Sanders had a plane to catch.
I find it interesting that “liberals” have such a hate for an “establishment” that has appointed two female SCOTUS justices, elected Obama, pushed through marriage equality, ect...ect..People act like the DNC snuck into their house in the middle of the night and killed their cats.
They comprise mostly of white liberal men. Maybe a very few white liberal women too, but a majority of them are white liberal men who condescend left and right to anyone who doesn’t pledge their utter allegiance to Bernie and blame any dissent on our vaginas.
And like I just said elsewhere, Sanders has been in Congress since 1990. He’s part of the establishment too.
Hillary Clinton has been around for a very, very long time. Some of these groups are, in fact, part of the establishment.
I’ll just say that Bernie Sanders’ supporters are like, 85% of the reason I’m not sold on him. I can’t say they are the worst, because Trump supporters are the actual worst, but damn, if one more 28 year old guy mansplains why I have to vote for Bernie Sanders....
You don’t think their endorsement of Clinton isn’t a response to his failure to vote on their defunding?
Bernie Sanders:
UM, sure, but Hillary just said she would repeal the Hyde Amendment, which is sort of a big deal for women, anyone who cares about abortion rights and especially Planned Parenthood.
Omigawd enough with the Establishment whining awready. All he’s doing is sounding petulant about not getting the endorsement. Step up the game or step aside.
More like there’s a sub group of Bernie Bros who are incapable of handling even the slightest criticisms of Bernie and completely condescend to people who try to have an actual discussion about his stand.
Right? How is this decision to endorse her in any way a mystery, at all? I don’t get the headscratching that’s been going on here.
I’m not going to die on a hill to defend the HRC (it has some real problems), but framing PP as part of the establishment that he is fighting might be a breaking point for me. I don’t care if he thinks it’s unfair that they endorsed so early or how many connections he feels there are between these organizations and…
Probably because they don’t think Bernie can win the general election (which may or may not be true) and they think it’s critical to elect a Democrat as president to not fuck everything up for women’s health (definitely true).
But it doesn’t translate into any policy, which is what super PACs base their endorsements on. Gee, what has Bernie done? Vote for things other people put forward? Not call PP baby killers? That’s a low bar.
