You need to compare those vehicles to similar vehicles though. A Model 3 is anywhere from 800-600 lbs heavier than a Camry or most other mid-size sedans. The bolt is about 600 lbs heavier than a Corolla or other compact sedan/hatches. And when you put those in percentages, they are pretty significant increases.

Yeah but on the other hand it’s just under $17/month, which lets be honest, you would be spending more than that on gas in anyway.

Yes, but that “average” new vehicle is an SUV.  Your Tesla 3 is indeed a fat pig when compared with medium-sized sedans.  An Elantra weighs 2,700 pounds.  A Mazda 6 is 3,200.

And the standard of how well you see out would have to be with a range of people.   I’m long torsoed, my wife is petite.  She sees out of vehicles at a completely different site line than I do and cars she finds hard to see out of are fine for me and visa versa sometimes.  Finding a car we both can see out of properly…

Yeah $200/year for a car that’s likely $70k+ is pennies.

We’re in the same ballpark, but I say hit the EV owners even harder.

Just as a note, Safest generally means best when running into something or being run into. For me, I would add consideration of safety of “not running into something in the first place.”

nailed it. Ultimate mid-life crisis car. Comfortable, great cruiser, loves to stretch it’s legs. Durable and even if you work it hard will just keep eating tires but nothing else.

“New tech will reduce crashes” is just throwing fuel on the fire of distracted driving. Having smaller vehicles with better visibility and fewer distractions will reduce crashes. Having better driver training will reduce crashes. 

Nice Pacifica.

This. Giving people more excuse to not pay attention will only cause more problems.

Given how the number of idiots, uh, drivers of Level 2 self-driving cars treating them as if they’re Level 5 and don’t pay attention to what the robocar’s doing—you are exactly correct.

Agreed. We have a VAST section of the country that is rural and the time it would take to build around it all would be decades.

Agreed.  I am in college for high voltage Electrical Engineering and I find it downright criminal to see the massive push to electrify everything but no push to expand the electric infrastructure.  

Can’t believe I had to scroll this far to find a hellcat. 

yep just posted the same thing -- and also said easy answer lol

At this point it’s safe to say the SS was a dud for Chevy. Just under 13,000 were sold over the five years it was on sale. And because of the demographic that bought these things, that means you can find them used now in great shape with relatively low miles and well within your budget.

I had a second generation Neon as a rental. Found it to be roomy with a good seating position and good acceleration from the 2.0L. What was odd about it was it had power front windows but the rear windows were crank operated.

All of them and none of them.