I’ve not seen the movie but I wonder if the nostalgia bombs weren’t purposefully made emotionally contextualless. Mark Fisher points out in Capitalist Realism how devices like the iPod have effectively flattened history of culture, making it all available to us at any time. Would someone growing up in a society where…

I don’t know, Angel getting a pet dragon and all of LA getting sent to hell was enough closure for me.

This is sad. People should’ve attended in droves... And laughed this idiot off stage.

Concrete Beach Party, forever!!!

Neither side has had much sense on this.

As a member of Gen X, I’m not sure we helped much either.

Here’s a fact that should be included in the article. Roy Moore receives an annual pension of over $135,000 from the state of Alabama.

I offered to send him some bootstraps.

How is YouTube like a broadcast network? They don’t go out looking for content creators. They don’t contract with specific orgs to present news to their customers. They provide a platform for people to post videos. That’s a very different thing than a broadcast network.

‘Weinstein was also an outcast of sorts. He hung out with “artsy-fartsy kids,” he wasn’t athletic’

Cool, I can get the behind the defamation argument. I don’t have a problem with that because it is very specific and directed at an individual. (though I may have posted a question earlier that indicated I held a counter position; I’ve had some time to think on it and defamation is a narrow enough offense and closely…

Strikes for hate speech are fine. What my original post responded to was the OP’s assertion his channel should be taken down because it spreads lies. I just don’t see how YT could arbitrate that if that became a standard and I don’t think they should.

But is he scaring away advertisers? Could they not just demonetize his channel so no adds show up on it?

You’re right. The thing is, I really like the openness YT has allowed. It’s let a lot of cool content, that could have never found a place in traditional media, flourish. I’ve never argued that they can’t do what they want or that users don’t have to follow the rules of the platform. My objection is to the OP’s…

Exactly, that’s why it would be better to leave YT as open as possible. They can go after, bullying, threatening, doxxing, etc. but to say YT should ban a channel, even one as toxic to the project of democracy as InfoWars just doesn’t seem like a good idea.

Yes, and I wasn’t addressing that. The OP was talking about taking him down because he’s a liar and spread rumors.

On the Internet? Or even just YT? There 300 hours of video uploaded to YT ever minutes. Good luck with that.

I’d have to see proof that Jones is actually driving away advertisers. As I understand it, the ad-pocolyps was the result of a poorly sourced and inflammatory NYT article, that read like old medias last grasp at trying to maintain control of the narrative and not give it up to new media types making headway on YT.

There are legal remedies for defamation. Wouldn’t it be better to keep YT an open, democratic platform and let our government enforce laws, instead of having a private corporation responsible for that?

I don’t actually think it’s a slippery slope. It’s happening right now through demotion and demonetization of both left and right independent media. Sure it’s not an out and out ban, but they are making these types of videos harder to find or to find a new audience.