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Ugh, you’re one of those people who thinks poor people can easily just up and move to other places. Never mind. If you think people are talking about the kind of person who could afford this apartment, or Manhattan at all, when they talk about the larger “crisis”, you know nothing about the demographic realities of

The only laws that were changed were changed to make things equal. You are literally proving my point. What special concessions are people trying to make, right now, for gay people? Nobody is trying to create additional benefits/special things that you don’t get, I promise. They faced prejudice (and definitely

“Most people” in New York are nothing like that. They spend literally no time thinking about how much better where they live is than other places, because they’re regular people going about their lives. I’ve never heard people talk more about New York (and, surprise, just as inaccurately as they were convinced

That “snobbery” only arose when someone not from a “big city” (the original commenter here) set the tone. I’m from the Midwest, and the insecurity and smugness with which people there talk about places they know nothing about easily holds up to any East Coast snottiness I’ve encountered.

I mean, the person who started this thread is the one who decided he was an expert on whether or not it was “worth it” for other people he doesn’t know to live where they live. Why be surprised that people are responding to him in turn?

I understand the sentiment, but people don’t just live places because they wanted to have fun/be “cool” and are incapable of thinking practically. People have families, careers in industries that are headquartered places, and on and on and on. Just as you probably don’t like it when people crap on the Midwest, you

Oh, this I know. And I’m sure it makes life pretty difficult for gay people in the military. I just don’t think we should continue to ask gay people to pay the entire price for other people’s feelings by being barred from making the same career/life choices as everybody else. It may take a while for people to change,

It seems like the only consequence you can come up with is that saying this (something that, mind you, it possible to keep to yourself, with zero negative consequences) leads to people disagreeing with you, or making you feel bad for thinking it.

I didn’t realize that it would be outside the realm of possibility in someone’s mind that a gay person might comment on an article about gay people (or about anything else, frankly), and therefore that they might be talking to a real live gay person. Gay people are everywhere, being interested in everything. Trying to

Gay people weren’t allowed to get married in this country, which strips people of pretty significant rights. How can you possibly not know this? I wasn’t just talking about the military, because it doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

You know what, OK. Perhaps, being a gay person myself, I react particularly strongly to people saying they “don’t give much thought” to something as significant as believing I shouldn’t be allowed to do things, be places or have certain options. I would hope you can understand why that might be, and perhaps I should

I don’t care whether you need my approval, or expect you to want it. But when you voice your opinion about something, sometimes people will take that as an invite to discuss it with you, and some of those people will disagree.

As long as that “live and not live” includes the belief that you shouldn’t have a say in what careers other adults can choose to pursue, it sounds like you keep your beliefs to yourself in the ways that count.

It still wouldn’t be totally erasing a relevant part of her life and career because you don’t want to read abut it, though. You don’t achieve equality by pretending that bad stuff didn’t/doesn’t happen to people that society as a whole allowed bad things to happen to. I’m sure she would love to have been treated just

People who automatically believe that any thinking that becomes more mainstream is “hive mind” and therefore insincere or incorrect amuse me. How on earth could more of the the “hive” believing that all humans in it are deserving of basic rights be a bad thing, or something to use to insult people? It’s like arguing

You realize that it’s not about “compulsory acceptance” as in “you have to love it/celebrate it/etc.” but actually just about removing people’s personal feelings about it from the legal part of the equation, yes?

The world must be very confusing for you.

It’s pretty clear that that person isn’t trying to make a perfect equivalency between these two things. People use hyperbole to make points and what not.

If people hadn’t spent decades/centuries trying to hold back/discriminate against them, they would get the same attention as everybody else. If you’re so opposed to it being treated as “special,” perhaps devote your attention to working towards a world where it isn’t.

Unless you believe that your personal feelings about “the gay thing” should dictate (aka limit) the career prospects of millions of other people, I’m not sure why they’re relevant to this story in the first place.