I think if they all out took the fighting out of ice hockey, we would just have figure skating.

I wasn’t saying you couldn’t keep one alive. I know a few people who have gotten there use out of them (the older box ones) but not nearly as many as the successful stories of almost any of the import minivans. The foreign ones do that (200k) on basic maintenance, and show minimal wear in comparison. I have gotten…

More like, rogue warrior cop.. better watch out

Yeah, like in the state program when they tell you don’t eat poppy seeds because they can give you a false positive for opiates....

They went the other way with it. They axed the caravan/T&C and now you have to get the Pacifica if you want luxury at a decent price. The sacrifice is, it’s still a dodge.(FCA) sensors are going to go bad, the trans is GOING to have issues and overall it’s going to fall apart from the inside out.

It’s a Chrysler, as in the same people who make dodge. Let’s not make any irrational decisions. Look at the resale value of your van versus a Chrysler model of the same year. Polished turds are still turds.

My brother in-law has been enjoying the continental breakfast at a hotel by his school, every morning. . .  for like 3 years. They haven’t said anything yet, he said

I’ve been searching for a new to me, used minivan with low miles and have to about threaten to get an out-the-door price. Saying your not interested, isn’t enough. Hard headed sales people of today don’t listen until you start to make them look like a fool in front of everyone.

I was reading all the comments, like always, waiting for the guy to say it. 

The amount of stuff that can slip through Carfax is a little insane.

They would sell way more with a moderate sized diesel motor...

Actual value:

I vote for Torch

How “fun” are we talking?

Or anything jeep. . .

I was going to ask, did he grow up a Dodge fan?

They should have spent the first 14 of those years making Toyota’s paint worth a damn.

Pops drives a 17 tundra and leaves his keys in the bed of the truck at all times when he’s not driving..

While I agree with what your saying, I also partly own a pest control business so I have to say, just call someone.

COMPLY OR DIE!