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Should note that the hotel room isn't guaranteed. Bought a Chromecast last week after Giz or LH posted the idea since we're on vacation. Plugged it into the TV in our Marriott only to discover that the TV had been modified so it was impossible to choose the input source. A good follow up article would be compiling the

White people MUST be involved. You are the majority, you hold the power. Without the support of white people, any movement is dead in the water.

I find shared articles very interesting and when my white friends share articles about how shit might suck for me, it makes me feel that they have empathy for me. So go ahead.

Therefore the sage goes about doing nothing, teaching no-talking.

Sounds like a bit of a catch 22. Because to change a system where whites are in the majority, you probably need their consent/support as well as some action on their part in order to change the system. But if their actions are always problematic just because of the power differential in the system, how is this action

Every time I read an article explaining how white people who think they are helping really aren't... this is the response from so many white people. "I don't know what to do then, maybe I should just do nothing?" If we stay inactive with the excuse of "not accidentally making things worse," we're letting the racist

Agreed! I think being an observant, kind person is one of the toughest things to be in a world filled with hatred and injustice. To smile in the face of the overwhelming "FUCK YOU"s that fly from all directions is brave. Just be kind and don't worry about the bullshit.

At the end of the day, I think the outrage over this goes beyond race.

We have seen one justice system employed to keep all of us down, and another justice system that excuses it's torturers and enforcers. That considers banks "too big to fail" and the rest of us "too small to care". Officers that have been trained to

Do you think it's even possible for white people to not be involved?

Your essay makes me uncomfortable. I honestly don't know how to help or be an ally. I work with kids in the family court system, either through abuse/neglect or juvenile delinquency/incorrigability. I want to fight for these kids, the majority of whom are POC. How do we do that without becoming a "good white person"?

It's definitely a fine line to walk, and I, along with so many others, am struggling to figure out how to do it.

I don't think it's fair to tell white people to keep quiet, because we SHOULD be outraged, and we SHOULD be agitating for change.

Allies in the majority are always important in social movements. Women could

Yes, let's all be quiet about this serious issue with our broken government. Also, let's stop doing civil disobedience and just look disapprovingly look at government buildings when we walk by instead of stopping all traffic on public roads. We need to be less obvious with our displeasure with the system, because

My answer is to do what I can, when I can, and take the condescension and the jabs at inauthenticity on the chin, because being a good person and doing the right thing doesn't always entail getting thanked or even being appreciated. It's so telling of our privilege that we expect our voices to at least be welcome. I

I just made a post about this but I think it got buried. There was a similar discussion in a feminist forum I belong to about how men can help and what they can do. A man came forward and said this which I thought was perfect.

That's ridiculous, change happens because word is spread that people wont put up with that kind of behavior any more. If you don't let anyone know what happened then nothing will change. Keeping this as a "black issue" only serves to segregate based on race. Make it everyone's issue and change is more likely.

THIS.

"Good white people" talking about deleting trolls, going to protests, or whatever else may very well not have an ulterior motive. This author is talking about deleting trolls, is she looking to be congratulated and thanked?

Part of what is being done is exerting social pressure on their borderline white friends

True. It's clear how one can sound pandering. And one is supportive, but in a way that doesn't make it clear you are supportive of other people. John the racist asshole at work may now know you support racial equality, but to members of the African-American community you are another white person benefiting off

i think a lot of goodwhites are really just decent people not seeking congratulations on being a decent person, but hoping to encourage decency in others.

It's almost like white people can't win, by the author, isn't it? If they speak or feel one way, they're racist, if they speak or feel the other (proper HUMAN/HUMANE way) then they are 'good' little white people seeking affirmation and reward for how 'forward thinking' they are. I guess, ironically, that to the

The basic problem, for me, is that no one will share or praise this essay more enthusiastically then those same good white people. Which is a real difficulty with all kinds of radical critiques of privilege these days: no matter how direct they are in challenging every privileged person, they always end up being