now, beyond the link i just posted, i think the question you raise about the place, time, and whom the protest may affect is important to consider. i raised similar questions during the bernie sanders medicaid and social security speech “shutdown” in seattle, particularly because i was thinking to myself, how does BLM…

blm minneapolis thought so too:

ignore the trolls...especially the ones who just lazily spam instead of actually engaging.

three years in, i still say the same thing almost every day. but for me, teaching (which i LOVE) is what motivates me. all the hoops we have to jump through don’t.

OH and anti-colonial movements were definitely not all supported by a majority of the population. in many cases, these rebellions began with small groups, many times those of a liminal class of “elite” indigenous people (i.e. those who had the fortunate of being educated or who had access to capital or legislative…

i think where plantation rebellions matter most, though, is the same place: the pocket. sure, people responded with force, and that was terrible in the short term, but the longterm effect (again, when accompanied by other forms of protest) was that slavery was too costly a system to uphold. the losses from property…

large scale wars in many places led to decolonization in african countries. europeans backs off not so much bc of the loss of life but bc of the potential loss of capital. i am simplifying here, but protest comes in many forms, and that which has the most impact is never the most polite. in SA, the ANC used violent…

and small kids are being killed by police...

and while they might have the “right” to kick them out, that’s not what i was pointing to. i was speaking directly to the assertion that private property is somehow not game for a site of protest.

i am talking about private property. almost every site in this country is “private property” - from malls and factories to schools and , yes, plantations (which, if you were alive then, you’d probably be saying were inappropriate places to protest because they are private). saying it is less “appropriate” of a place…

no one is “taking out” anything on anyone. if you feel that expressing your right to consume (which, last time i checked, was not a part of the constitution) somehow outweighs constitutionally protected rights to protest and the need to bring attention to the disproportionate deaths of human beings in this country,…

history shows that it’s a combination of things. it’s not just one factor, ever. political inroads are always made from a mixture of efforts, and to discount protest as one such factor is shortsighted and, frankly, entirely ahistorical.

please see all my notes on this thread on connections to corporations, private property, incarceration, militarization of police forces, racism, and police brutality. the answer to your last line is there.

it is integral to the cause. corporations have a direct link to the militarization of police forces, the limiting of civil liberties (including the right to protest), and incarceration.

you really need to do some deeper reading on rosa parks...

seriously.

this is for everyone on this threat talking about permits to protest:

didn’t you get the memo? it’s only ok for other groups to use protest (on the “private property” everyone is enjoying discussing today or otherwise) to further their political agendas. meanwhile, if black people go to a mall to bring attention to our very right to life, we must do so in a way that doesn’t rock the…

also, my response was to the idea that protest should only occur in the confines of a specific set of types. that doesn’t do anything but grant lawmakers the satisfaction that their attempts to limit real public debate and constitutionally protected protest are working.

“private” businesses and the protection of private property are directly connected to policing, incarceration, militarization and detrimental acts toward the public. seems like a perfectly fine place to me to air a grievance that disproportionately affects a part of american society that also contributes to the growth…