And isn’t this movie about the last couple of years of Garland’s life? I don’t blame Liza at all for not supporting this project. Who would want to see that splashed on the screen?

Exactly. And it’s not about just any old family member - it’s about her mother. A woman with whom she had an extremely complicated, often painful relationship. I can understand why she’s unhappy about this project.

Aside: the thing is, Judy already did her own biopic, perfectly condensed into a two- or three-day, thinly-veiled details-only-slightly-altered-to-protect-the-innocent affair. And she and Dick Bogarde made it fucking magic by re-jigging the role to suit the actor’s own unique chops. It had pathos and self-awareness.

Liza is so high up on my list of people I’d like to spend an afternoon with. Sure, after an hour or so I’d probably regret my decision - and sure, she seems like the type of lady who wears too much perfume and has a tendency to grab you by the arm while she talks..... but she is amazing and I bet she has the best…

Is this shade? I don’t get the sense that it is shade. This is where I miss the right honorable Judge Kara Brown, who I fear would not endorse this as shade.

It would be really tough to watch someone create a biopic of a close family member because there will always be aspects that come across as totally inaccurate, if not as outright lies in the service of weaving a compelling story. I feel bad for Liza Minnelli.

I like Pippa’s dress apart from the crotch flowers- odd placement and they seem like an afterthought.

The can reference is hilarious, but I also like the dress. Full sleeves, too. I like dresses with sleeves.

And don’t get started on how this makes things difficult for people who aren’t entitled assholes and are just looking for someone to spend their life with, but happen to be socially awkward or have psychological conditions that make direct eye contact physically painful.

They are like the crab in the bucket mentality…

Well it might work for a while, but then we should change it to Fire Islands.

Agreed. God forbid any of three prime specimens have to date an uggo.

Id poison this creep’s casserole if he were my forced husband #belladonnaiseasytofind

What I find interesting is that this is the only area where he seems to prioritize “collective good” over “individual freedom”. In every other context, he says that if you need something (healthcare, a job, etc.) it’s on you to get it and it’s not society’s responsibility to guarantee that you have it. But when it…

This is why I wish sex work and sex workers weren’t so stigmatized. I’ve long thought sex work needs to be legal, regulated, unionized, and taxed.

Any time someone uses evolutionary psychology as the crux of their argument you know they are full of bullshit. This guy is an imbecile.

The guys feel totally justified in having high standards, and are mad that women have any.

If we’re going to be ruthlessly efficient about this like he wants, just develop a cultural norm where all the incels ship off to their own little island. Then they can’t kill any women. Problem solved.

So he’s basically saying these men have a “have sex with me or I’ll murder some people” take on life? And it’s somehow our responsibly to provide that sex in order to protect ourselves and our society from them? Ummmm, k.

What makes me angry about the entire “incel” thing - outside of the obvious entitlement and objectification of women - is that these assholes claiming that women are just picking high-status men are the same assholes who won’t date “beneath them.” It’s not that they CAN’T get laid. They just don’t want any woman who…

It’s just enough to drive a modern person mad to listen to these incels from the internet area ensconced in their comfortable secure lives complaining about the fact that they’re discriminated against because they don’t have enough sex. It’s like, Jesus get a hobby. For Christ’s sake, you — you — ”