Are you actually accusing me of supporting slavery? All right. I’m out. Nice knowing you, Jezebel.

I don’t think the EC should exist anymore in the first place, so to me, that time is never. Especially because this is false hope. It’s not going to happen. We should focus more on what’s actually possible, in my opinion.

This is my POV too. People have gone from wishful denial to magical thinking and it is painful to watch.

Exactly. I’m not down with this “THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE SUCKS” oh wait no “SAVE US THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE” bullshit. There’s no reason in all this madness. It’s absurd.

There’s literally no way to argue against your point of view, so whatevs. If my fellow Americans want to burn it all down by either electing a complete idiot goon or pretending that things will just magically go back to normal if the EC blows it all up, I guess I’ll go get my fucking fiddle and play.

People love saying pithy shit like this until things stop going their way and they have no recourse to turn it around.

I understand the way the government works. I’m just pointing out that when you start flouting rules, you set a precedent. That’s what “throwing the baby out with the bathwater” means in this context. There are Republicans who STILL THINK that President Obama is the worst thing to ever happen to this country. No amount…

I just hate this Republican “well, he is ABSOLUTELY UNCONSCIONABLE but also I cannot bring myself to vote for a Clinton” bullshit. Either he’s acceptable or he isn’t. Elections as we do them are in fact a zero-sum game.

That’s interesting perspective, I guess. I just don’t know what the endgame is here. You can’t selectively ignore rules and expect everything to go back to normal when you want it to. I’ve turned into Walter Sobchack all of a sudden.

That’s my understanding as well, but it doesn’t change my sentiment. Electors aren’t supposed to behave this way. They’re ALLOWED to, but is that really something we want? Do you really think that empowering electors to ignore the system is just fine and dandy and there’s no way that ends badly?

So you think the electoral college is a good thing and should definitely stick around and in fact have more power?

Yes, and they’re a good thing. They were part of the democratization that happened to undo some of the oligarchic standards put in place by the slaveowners who thought that only literate, landowning men should have a say. You think that’s a good idea? 

Right? It’s shocking to me how many people are engaging in short-term thinking here. And how many people are being brazenly hypocritical. This is a fucked situation. It’s fucked beyond all salvation. Perhaps the best move is to accept that and brace to make sure the disaster doesn’t destroy us completely rather than…

Really? Let’s say by some miracle the college decides to elect Kasich (option A) or Clinton (option B). Let’s say.

How?

God this is all so absurd

He is doing it, but that’s not reason to get your hopes up.

That story made me mad because I would have handled that situation like a champ. My writeup would have been much worse, though, and not just because I’m not nearly as good a writer as Caity. My piece would have been like “I got high and went to a terrible restaurant. Then I ate a shit ton of cheese sticks and it was…

But maybe she’s right though.

That was her grandfather. Showbiz family!