...and then Roman says, “The real crime is, down a waiter, I had to wait 45 minutes for a gin and tonic.” <Chef’s kiss.>

For me, it was when Roman sat down next to Kendall - IN THE DIRT. At first he crouched down, but when he allowed his $600 trousers to get soiled, the shit got real.

I think Grampa Ewan cut off Greg’s mom already too, didn’t he? And he’s clearly a man who uses the promise of inheritance to bully and shame his side of the family, all of whom are probably miserable fuckups in a different way.

I guess, but even so, it seems like a strange takeaway. Gatsby is meant to be likeable. His crimes seem mostly to with things like gambling and bootlegging. He’s not shown to be ruthless or cruel. He’s not exactly a paragon of virtue, but to describe him as a parallel to Logan Roy seems completely off base.

I remember back when Season 2 were airing, people were saying that since Season 1 was the Kendall season and Season 2 was the Shiv season, Season 3 would be the Roman season. (I don’t think this season necessarily made him the outright lead at the expense of the others, but Culkin certainly got a lot of great material…

I thought this season made clear that by now, at least, Greg is really motivated by status, not material consumption. Of course that is true of all of these characters in one sense or another—they all have far too much wealth already for more wealth to matter in any consumption sense. But striving for/defending status…

I think the tension you are articulating comes out of the fact this show superficially looks like a corporate thriller which might actually have some sort of happy ending, but it is actually a family tragedy which is likely to end poorly for the main characters.

I agree. Greg comes in as hapless kid who doesn’t really know what he wants out of life other than a vague feeling that he shouldn’t have to work very hard for it because he comes from wealth, and while he doesn’t have a particularly strong moral compass he at least seems to know right from wrong better than his…

I think you could see Greg, and really Tom too, as the show demonstrating the effects of such abuse in real time, as opposed to it largely already having happened for the siblings by the beginning of the series.

Most definitely! I also read a lot of self-hatred inTom’s belittlement of Greg during that scene.…

“They smashed up things and people and then retreated into their money or their vast carelessness.”

Things are only great for Logan if you agree with his mind-set that optimizing his business deals is the only thing that matters.

It sounds to me like there was a divorce agreement with a change of control provision for the family company requiring a supramajority. I suspect it didn’t specifically mention the kids, and in the context of a divorce would instead have been understood as protecting Caroline’s interests, as she is also a large…

Yeah, it seemed clear to me it was Shiv taking the lead on organizing a joint rebellion, and she had to first rope in Kendall, and then finally Roman. Indeed, I think she was telling Roman in the car she expected to be CEO.

I love how Shiv recently made it explicitly clear to Tom that their relationship was always fundamentally transactional, to the point she called Tom unfair for trying to make it into something different. She had a point, and yet she failed to understand that Tom truly accepting that view meant he would start thinking…

Caroline mentioned in episode 8 of this season that she was reworking the divorce agreement because her new husband found an apartment he liked. So in fairness it did seem that was being discussed before the car ride over to Logan in this most recent episode. Looks like Logan agreed to get Peter that apartment in…

As someone who focuses too much on Tom, I find it fascinating how Shiv and Greg contrast the type of love Tom gives. With Shiv, he’s clingy and desperate to be with her all the time. It’s kind of sweet but sets off some minor red flags.

Yes. This is why when I see those “Shiv is going to go Gone Girl” takes, I feel like most of that is just based on easy stereotypes. Tom was probably the one who fit more into those patterns over the last few seasons - a partner who thought they could handle the realities of the marriage but buckled after being made…

It’s so sinister the way Logan goes in on Roman to get him on his side and, more importantly, once again seperate him from his siblings. 30ish years in this family and that might have been the moment Roman finally realized that love means shit. It doesn’t count for anything here. That knee fall might have been more…

As someone who loved Tom right from the pilot episode, and has always felt Matthew Macfadyen is remarkable as a very difficult character, I was really thrilled at his ascent up the ladder into Logan’s graces.

“Boo souls” is one of the most perfect lines, and line readings, for this show. When Greg said it, I laughed a bit, yet also felt queasy. “Good” Greg fully taking off the shackles of self-righteousness, giving himself permission to roll in the mud he was already neck-deep in. The ethos of this show - horrible people…