I was thinking the same thing, this $70k-$80k M3 competitor would look at home on a Kia lot.

I’m curious to hear your reasoning for why you have no problem blindly accepting Motor Trend’s Laguna Seca times as accurate but not the Nurburgring lap times. The M4 GTS fell right where I would expect it (slightly ahead of the Alfa QV which has similar horsepower).

The M2 gearbox is the exact same gearbox that’s used in the M3/M4, which is the same gearbox used in the 1M. I have not read a review that has had anything but praise for the 6MT in the car and, outside of my S2000, is as nice shifting of a 6 speed as I’ve ever driven. However, in the end I realize this is entirely…

Because some people don’t want to spend $75k on a car that’s not really much better from any objective measurement and from a brand with a highly suspect reliability and almost nonexistent dealer network (in the US). Buying an Alfa or a Lotus as a third car or a weekend drive is one thing, do you really want to rely…

Having driven both the latest DCT and 6MT M3, I am not sure how you could possibly think the 6MT feels out of place in the M3. An M5, I would understand.

And yet the M3/M4 has won the vast majority of the comparisons against the C63s and ATS-V, so I guess all of them are crap. I understand hating on the F8x M3/M4 is the jalopnik thing to do because it isn’t a V8 that will eventually depreciate to $20k so they can purchase one, but the amount of hate is unreal.

Realistically, does anyone actually use launch control? No one I know with a car equipped with it has ever used it. Maybe if you went to a drag strip.

Yeah, it’s hard to say for sure. There’s certainly an incentive for the automotive journalist to generate controversy by having the Type R (or a Camaro) beat the M car, though I think I’d chalk the M3's time to slightly sloppy driving on Steve’s part and the cars being tested on a track that looks more at home at an…

I’m not sure I would consider a car with most of its interior gutted and non-standard tires as anything close to production. With regards to the Auto Express video, a shorter track with more corners is going to favor the smaller car and Steve’s M3 looked like more of a drift lap than a time attack. He lost a lot of…

Yes, but the Type R was a pre-production car without A/C, a stereo, a passenger seat and other interior bits plus it used non-standard tires. If you stripped the interiors out of either the M4 or the M2 and put them on R Comp tires their lap times would improve significantly.

The E9x is a great car, don’t get me wrong but the consensus from people whom I generally respect (i.e. Chris Harris) seems to be that the F8X is a much better all around car. Compared to the F8x, the E9X is still too large, weighs more, still lacks steering feel and has no torque. On the plus side, the noise is…

Actually, it depends on the track. On longer tracks the M4 is faster. It’s only on very short tracks with a bunch of corners where the M2 has the edge.

Uh if you know where there’s a 993 turbo for $65k you need to tell me where it is right now so I can go buy it. $167k is what a well sorted 993 turbo goes for—check autotrader

World-Wide Volkswagen requires sufficient minimum contacts so as to not offend traditional notions of fair play and justice. Posting an ad on a local craigslist for a one-off car sale that happens to be searchable by out of state residents would not be seen as sufficient minimum contacts in a state where an individual…

It’s about $65k more than a base m4, not $100k. Not a whole lot better but still

What? Where have you seen a stock non-Z06 C7 hit 0-60 in 3.2 seconds?