It is like me when I watch "Max & Ruby". I've developed the theory that Ruby killed their parents, Psycho style, and has them stuffed and sitting in chairs. But I read a theory online that Ruby is actually a teen mom and Max is her son, hence why she parents him without adult interference.

Nobody likes chihuahuas.

Lets go back a ways and growing up watching cartoons in the 70s attempted murder was made as a joke. Elmer Fudd trying to kill Bugs Bunny, Yosemite Sam trying to kill Bugs, Sylvester trying to kill Tweety Bird, Wiley E Coyote well EVERY cartoon he tried to kill the Roadrunner. Actually few old WB cartoons did not have…

I legitimately remember this conversation happening:
Adult: "How about THIS movie? The animal is so cute!"
Child Me: "No, I hate animal movies."
Adult: "But you LOVE animals."
Child Me: "Animals in movies die, I don't want to watch that movie because the dog is going to die, the dog ALWAYS dies, if there's a movie about a…

I volunteered a nursing home briefly and one day I came in to find that the movie of the day was Up.

Death is prevalent in most children's films because the young characters need to be free to pursue the action.

If the first ten minutes of UP doesn't make you teary:

I absolutely hate the culture of "happiness" that is so ingrained in America. It's unhealthy and it's annoying.

Agree that there is no good answer. To see this kind of heinous planned murder is awful enough from an adult, let along a 12-year-old, but I have to wonder if they'll ever be safe for society (or at least, if the ringleader will be, it seems like the other girl was kind of coerced to go along with it).

They plotted and planned it for months, so unless they were loaded the entire time with no one noticing, no.

And putting a person capable of plotting a savage murder (yes, I know they didn't succeed) back into society is also a really terrible idea, regardless of their age.

Wow, are you for real? They way you said it, it sounds like you're pretending these are just 2 random innocent girls being punished for no good reason. They tried to kill her. It's not about taking away her suffering; it's about justice, it's about taking violent psychopaths off the street, and getting them the help…

How are you overlooking the fact that these girls collaborated and planned this girl's murder for months? That's not just "severe" that sounds like a pretty damn deliberate and calculated crime to me, one in fact, that would require quite a bit of maturity to plan and follow through with.

This. Fuck any of the pearl clutching pussies on here advocating for special treatment for these little beasts. They know what they did and what they did was horrific. Ask the victim how she feels about the hand wringing over whether to try these girls as adults or juvies.

What about their victim, who has to suffer for the rest of her life with the physical and mental scars of the incident? Where is her break? Where are her civil rights advocates?

Having a mental illness does not excuse actions in the eye of the law. In order to use the defense of insanity the perpetrator must have a mental illness or mental retardation that keeps them from understanding the criminality of their act at the time of the crime. Basically the only psychiatric diagnosis that fits…

Seriously, there are a million more important things and people we should be focussing on than this. If we had an infinite amount of time and energy, then sure, let's debate it, but the fact is that they committed a horrible crime. They are mentally broken. Don't kid yourself and believe that kind of psychopathy can…

If it helps, they didn't kill their victim.

They were adult enough to stab someone not once or twice but nineteen times. Make nineteen stabbing motions with your arm. That take dedication to what you're doing.

Absolutely shameful that people here are defending these psychopaths. What is wrong with you. Would you like these kids released and living in your neighbourhood?