“So because the judge used the power she had to hopefully get some distance between the mother and the kids she is brainwashing, she should be condemned?”

I mentioned this above, but she also claimed that the abuse couldn’t possibly have happened because the mother never obtained an order of protection against the father. What she didn’t mention was that the mother applied for an order of protection, and this same judge denied it.

I was just thinking the same thing. As a child of divorce, with weird & spread out visitations to see my “father, “ My mom, the saint, never said a beep about my father being a creep or him trying to get out of paying child-support, etc. But by age 16 or 17, I had figured out the father was a real schumk-douche…

According to the transcript the 15 year old says he doesn’t want a relationship with his father because he has witness his father beating his mother. The judge basically said that can’t be true since everyone loves and respects you father. The mother encouraged the children to talk to their father but the kids decided…

Did you look at the history? The 15 year old doesn’t want to see his father because he has witness his father beating his mother. Of course the judge says this fact doesn’t matter because it has been proven in court that it happened. Children can make up their own damn minds about who they want to spend time with.

“The kids were found to be in contempt of court for refusing an order by the judge. That’s why they were sent to Children’s Village. As a judge she has every legal right to hold anyone in contempt who doesn’t follow her orders.”

It’s actually an expensive Jewish camp (the kids are Jewish) that is apparently nice and elite (and expensive! In court they said 9k for the three of them). I don’t know who is being forced to pay for it though. So the camp is ok. But forcing them to go against their will is less ok.

The reason I’m suspicious of the court-appointed advocate is this sentence:

The entire concept of “parental alienation” is highly disputed, and definitely not established in the medical field. The simplest explanation tending to be the true one, seems FAR more likely the kids don’t want to be around their dad because of something he did. Brainwashing? Seriously? smfh

Judges like her need to be thrown from the bench. I had a magistrate like that for my custody case as a kid. My mom had full custody of me and wanted to move out of state because she couldn’t find work. My dad, being the charmer that he was, refused to allow me out of state (I was 14, going on 15 at the time) and so…

Court-ordered advocates are often woefully undertrained, and the mad dads have succeeded in making some court staff believe that “parental alienation syndrome” is a real thing (it’s not, according to the AMA and every other reputable medical association).

I’m not defending the mother, I’m calling the judge’s actions into question. Did you read how she spoke to those children? It was so over the top and bizarre that it does lead people to speculate about her motives.

She sent them to Camp Tamarack, which is where my kids have gone every summer for years. It’s a very nice camp and the kids will be well cared for there. And my guess is a lot of their friends will be there as well. So I think it’s a decent decision.

Seriously, I don’t care if the kids are actually suffering from brainwashing/parental alienation syndrome or not, the way she spoke to them and treated them was flat-out unacceptable no matter what. She cannot say she was acting in their best interests while simultaneously verbally abusing them and for all intents and…

Obviously this is a complex case. The mother is not a saint here. This is a bitter legal battle. But most people are focusing their condemnation on the judge and this particular action...and they are 100% right to do so.

Because family court judges aren’t supposed to send kids to juvie. They don’t even have the jurisdiction to send kids to jail. The kids aren’t parties to the divorce.

Given that their father left them in jail not allowed to see one another or have their mom or any of her family visit while he fucked off out of the country for two weeks, I’m entirely willing to believe they’ve got damn good reasons for wanting nothing to do with him.

Right? It’s like the ultimate gaslighting. You can’t possibly have independent thoughts! Someone must be telling you to hate your other parent because in literally every non-divorced household all the children get along swimmingly with both parents all of the time!

It’s also really common for kids to (of their own volition!) not like a parent and not feel safe with them. All those kids are old enough to have their own opinions. I can’t tell you how shitty it is to be told by the court that because you are not 18, it is impossible that you would have any independent thought and…

I love that she’s doing the whole “you guys don’t understand” thing when literally NOTHING (barring the kids actually, you know, committing a crime and even then it’s debatable) that justifies her sending them to jail and threatening them in the manner that she did (“you want people to watch you pee?”).