More so with drifting, as it’s much more dangerous than either. I’m assuming we are talking street drifting here.

I’ll argue that burnouts are considerably more dangerous than rolling coal. Sure the smoke isn’t good for you, but that’s largely over long term exposure. Meanwhile, burnouts occasionally result in out of control vehicles being launched into unwilling participants, which is considerably more deadly.

Drag strip burnout are about the same as rolling coal during a tractor pull. I don’t think anyone is arguing against either.

Agreed on actual physical pollution,but if you count noise pollution (which can be pretty aggravating) the picture starts to even out somewhat. There is no shortage of burnouts going wrong and result in accidents. I don’t personally know of any that resulted in death, but wouldn’t be too surprised to hear if there was…

Really? I’ve seen a number of rage burnouts.

Drive what you want, but putting an ass load of noxious smoke on people will make you an asshole in my book

You get consistency points, but you have to admit most of jalop readership thinks burnouts are awesome.

I don’t vape, but I don’t get all the hate vapers seem to be getting. They are taking their addictions and putting them in a form that doesn’t hurt those around them (and themselves) and I say hats off to them. Unless they insist on blowing it in people faces, or doing it in restaurants or whatever of course.

If you think about it, it’s not much different than burnouts. No point in those either.

I am not a lawyer, I don’t play one on TV, and I haven’t read the text of the bill, but installing said device certainly shows intent of rolling coal, but it doesn’t necessarily shows intent to harass anyone. Some people just like big black clouds of smoke.

I don’t think we should go around banning things that make people look like jerk offs. That’s some angry old men crap there. “Pull up your pants!”

Why? Who are the vapers hurting?

At first I thought it was a quote taken out of context somehow, but then I saw the full thing, and its worse that I thought. Especially the part about planes and trains. We’ve had level 2 autonomy in both for a rather long time, because it’s much easier than it is in cars.

So the next time we hear a recording of a politician saying something about grabbing things, they can just deny it.

I’m nowhere near as certain about this as you appear to be. There are chain effects, as the scale of the things you produce increases the scale for the equipment and consumables that are required to produce it, which in turn allows for a more efficient production of those things, further cutting prices.

I meant literally limit cars to a single gear ratio, which would force them to use an electric motor to cover up the torque flat spots, like the koenigsegg.

Funny, that’s not how I saw the story at all. While a few of the people receiving the tapes were genuinely terrible people, most weren’t. What I saw depicted a structural problem, where the imperfect aspects of normal people combine together into something far worse, and where truly horrible people can flourish. It…

Just limit them to only 1 gear.

It’s not just about spreading the NRE’s over a larger number of products, it (mostly) about the scale justifying more efficient production processes. You can invest in better tooling/equipment, and that makes for cheaper parts. In absolute terms both NRE and overhead actually increases.

That sort of statement really needs some numbers to back it up.