It already isn’t a thing with any real, meaningful consequences. That is my point. Saying someone is “canceled” is just a hyperbolic way of expressing fatigue over dealing with a person or group of people. It doesn’t actually mean anything beyond that.  

Exactly. For all the people who have been “cancelled”, it seems to have made little to no difference, and they still show up everywhere.

I came here to say the same thing regarding “punching down” and “don’t do it.”

Chappelle and Gervais got told their trans jokes weren’t funny, and it was probably the first time either of them heard that in decades. Rather than taking the L, figuring out why they weren’t funny and either avoiding the subject altogether or figuring out a way to make jokes that don’t punch down, they’re both going…

If you turn off the lights and say “Ricky Gervais” three times on twitter, even if you don’t @ him, he’ll appear in your mentions.

That Ricky Gervais hosted the Golden Globes in 2020 is ironclad proof that the supposed excesses of “cancel culture” are not actually a thing, but only exist in the fever dreams of people who desperately want to shout the n-word and use “gay” as an insult. 

More accurately, Ricky Gervais is simply playing himself in The Office but with Stephen Merchant having sanded off the worst corners.

As someone who never started drinking I’m always annoyed by the one person in the group that always insists I start drinking.

The “men just can’t help themselves” argument is such bullshit.

I didn’t know who Carry Nation was so thank you for that wikipedia rabbit hole. She sounds amazing and slightly batshit crazy. Like, it sounds like some sort of mental illness ran through her whole family. But it also said she opened a shelter for wives and children of alcoholics that was an early model for modern…

Also, if you look back at the 1920's, women had less access to birth control, education, divorce, and jobs (that provided a wage high enough to support a family). Hell yeah, I’d pissed off if my husband drank away his paycheck, leaving me with little means on how to take care of myself and the many children he…

It was the most surprising thing when I quit drinking, the people who disapproved. Of me not drinking a literal poison. But it always says more about their relationship with alcohol than yours. 

Since the advent of Sober January/February (because God forbid one not drink during those NYE parties) I have noticed some pushback like you describe. And it’s not the person who’s being sober trying to get everyone else to quit, they’re just having a Coke.

THIS THIS THIS! Maybe prohibition doesn't work. But maybe our cultural relationship with alcohol (and alcohol marketing) doesn't work either.  You'd be amazed how downright *offended* people get when you tell them that you have quit drinking, but you are not necessarily an alcoholic. Our society wants you to hit rock…

Or the military.  Rape certainly happened there before women were allowed in the ranks.

I love that Carry Nation used to sell hatchet brooches to cover her legal fees, etc. The idea that other women would wear them around to let people know that, “Yeah, I’ll cut up your shit too,” warms my heart.  You can still find them on the secondary market, but they’re a bit expensive, but would be worth it if…

One word: prison.

As I’ve explained to the Emily Yoffes of the world, including my mother....

I think we as an entire society should look at our relationship with alcohol and probably steal drinks out of a lot of people’s hands. 

Jokes on you, all men have a secret pouch of brewer's yeast implanted in the lining of the stomach upon their 13th birthday. Gimme some water and malt and I'll be drunk as a lord in 3-5 weeks depending on the ambient temperature.