Haha, this couldnt be more true. Owned a 06 ss/sc and 09 ss/tc sedan. Its amazing how much better the 09 was. Gm actually listened to the compliants and problems and fixed almost all of them.

Fiscal responsibility. Why in this country is it always someone else fault? If you took the card and charged a balanced and couldnt pay it back, its on you. Why should the government have to”protect” you from yourself? How come we dont outlaw drinking? People obviously cant handle that? How come the government doesnt…

Chevy ss is the same as a charger r/t fully loaded...pretty much the same price. You just cant get a base chevy ss.

Really? Tires isnt number 1?

Where do you think wallstreet gets the billions to move? By paying the least amount possible for stuff.

Thats a big negative. Banks dont like credit cards that you dont USE.

You mis understood my post. I was refering to people complaining about trading in their cars. Generally a retailled car at a dealership is market up about 5k to give room to mark it down and to cover the costs of doing business. So you seeing them for 5k less than msrp means the dealership probably gave them 5k less…

8500 less than you paid or 8500 in total?

Thats cause dealers know this will blow over and VW will be forced to fix the cars, so why lower the asking price. On the flip side, do not go anywhere near a dealer with a tdi for a trade because they will rape you and then profit when VW fixes them.

Thats why i was curious where he was getting the figures. Cause if he is just trying to dump the car that is possibly the dumbest move possible right now because VW is going to be on the hook for some of that drope in value. Also, one the cars are “fixed” that will restore some of the value too.

Not sticking up for VW, but how did you come up with that figure? I ask because i chuckle at the people complaining about buying a 2015 muatang for msrp and then a year later having depreciated 10 to 15k.

This is just some helpful advice.

If they build a awd challenger with a stick i will immediately get rid of my 2015 mustang. Right now i want a focus rs, but if they did this or a charger awd with a stick, dodge would have a customer for life. I know the tranny tunnel doesnt allow a stick in the charger though.

I like the ones with the wheels better, easier to do donuts. I use to deliver them to customers. It was also easy to do wheelies.

Any incentives on the chevy ss there? Haha

I think the biggest wrench in the cogs here is the trade in. I have my 30k trade in. I could sell it privately, but then i was loose 2100 in tax savings. So i was have to sell the car for 2100 more than the trade in offer to break even or else im loosing money there. Has anyone tried to sell a 30k sports car privately…

Haha, same thing in nj. I blame it on the lack of drivers education and limiting experience by pushing back the drive age.

North east? Nj, ny?

Then they slowly roll up, which i believe causes the accordion effect in traffic, that and the fucking rubber neckers.

Erod ls3 or a ls motor from a 2011 or newer car with all smog equip attached