Yeah, a Jeep is a uniquely styled convertible with removable doors. I can see a ton of appeal to that even if you never go off road.

Ford employed a truck configuration it did not actually intend to sell to individual buyers – one that omitted such standard items as the spare wheel, tire and jack, radio, and center console

Its my seat, I paid for it, I’ll recline if I want.

A 2Runner is fine for what 99.7% of buyers use them for.

and comes standard with 4WD.

Depreciation will hurt every single person buying these in the 3-7 years they’re likely to own them more than the price of fuel ever will.

Not saying that my stable of “fun” vehicles is typical, but it’s probably not out of line for the prospective Bronco Raptor owner:

Better than I expected honestly.

Given how fast these overpriced used cars seem to disappear from lots, I assume people are paying close to the asking price.

All I’ve ever said is do the math.

Correct, but if you just need cheap transportation, new was likely never in the cards for you.

If you find yourself in a situation where you must buy a car immediately, you are going to be bent over a barrel no matter what you’re buying.

I used your numbers, from your post, my man.

I don’t think anyone with any measure of intelligence is recommending ditching a perfectly good car for an expensive EV to save money.

Even using your close to ideal case, including buying used vs new, you are saving $0.13/mile and paid $22,000, meaning you need to drive ~170,000 miles to break even. That calculation is also assuming gas never goes down and electricity never goes up.

And if you do have to buy, it likely makes more financial sense to buy used

Buy a $60,000 EV to save $100/month in gas.

I’ve never paid above 4.25% on a car in my life, so it’s not clear to me why you think I’m “getting ripped off by criminal interest rates”.

For rarer stuff that might not have as many comparables for sale at the same time, I’ve found references like eBay Sold Listings to be valuable. Or even *ducks head* BaT, if only for a rough sense of a cap on values.

If they haven’t determined a root cause, how do they know which subset of trucks need to be recalled?